Warlord games has both of those, and I think my local game store has had warlord boxes in the past, so perhaps I could order them trough him.
Actually, I was wondering of American civil war plastics from Perry miniatures wouldn’t be easier. I might just be falling for the color here, but perhaps not. My main problem with them is the pouch and its strap they have crossing their torso. It goes the wrong way, for my purposes. Anybody know how hard it would be to remove that from about 15+ models?
But in any case I think I will go with victrix models, they have separate heads and arms so they are easier to convert to more modern rifles and heads, And with somewhere between 45 and 60 in a box, there should be enough appropriate bodies, even if I screw up a few.