"A Very American Civil War" (or something thereabouts) Coming This Year

[Cory]

Patton intiates "Very Little Prepatory Bombardment"

[commissarmoody]

yeah just enough to let them know we mean business

[Doc Twilight]

Great picture, Cory. Where'd you find it?

-Doc

[carlos marighela]

Just the ticket for prising oversized chimpanzees off tall buildings.

[SBRPearce]

Re: Cincinnati, mustn't forget that it had a large German-American community - the American Bund could be a Nationalist Fifth Column inside the Not-So-Open-City.

I'm currently working on a campaign outline "The White Motor Riots" detailing the early stages of the Battle of Cleveland. The inciting incident was the discovery by the workers of the White Motor Company (a maker of heavy trucks) that the large order of armored cars built "for Britain" (including the visit to the assembly plant by a bowler-hatted, plummy-sounding "British trade rep") had actually been shipped into Canada, then back across the border in Alberta to open a second front in the Anaconda Campaign. The newsreel shots of the ensuing massacre at Missoula, Montana sparked the eponymous riots, which led inexorably to all-out warfare.

[Cory]

Hah, being in Missoula, that's the sort of thing we have been gaming.

Eventually though my Wobblies will prevail and the copper barons driven out! Death to the Anaconda!


The picture is from a bunch I scrounged from the net last year, it's a national guard demonstration.

[commissarmoody]

UTAH!!!!!........

In My research Its seems that Utah was both pro labor and pro business. I am honestly thinking that they would pull a neutral stance or go con. With only a few exceptions being the imagrent mining communities in the south that had a history of strikes, and already had a martyr in the form of Joe Hill, poet laureate of the Wobblies, for an alleged Salt Lake murder. And had a strong Miner, smelter and mill workers union in the 30s.
 
George Dern, there former governor was the Secretary of War and was know for taking his job vary serous. It was under him that the military started to get modernized. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._Dern

And there Current gov Henry H. Blood was vary pro new deal and Roosevelt and the new deal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_H._Blood

And from what I know read the mormons were usually and really pro right to work in the late 30s, and not pro communist (because of the anti relegues stance of that organization ) or rocking the boat so to say. They were know to have a vary moderating voice in the Unions in Utah.
that being said they are vary organized on the ward and temple level so it would be extremely hard for an insurgency to take root with out overall consent from the community as a whole.
Utah was also a big proponent of The national, anti-union, open-shop American Plan of the 1920s. So I am thinking that it would be torn with moderate civil strife tell the national guard and the 38th inf out of Salt lake could were able to reinstate authority. then the 38th would get sent to one of the "fronts" leavening the national guard, and other groups to mantain order.
 Its also a stgice railroads state the Natinalist would be there in force, after they fought there way threw what I am guessing will be a left leaning Calarado.

http://www.media.utah.edu/UHE/l/LABOR.html

The main problem it would have is that in 1934 Utah had its worst recorded drought in history. Utahan’s were left without food, clothing, shelter, and employment.
So if it wasnt allied with some faction with some kind of deal or another you would be seeing a 1930s style humanintarian disaters.

I see Utah/Deseret having several unifying things that most other places lack and that is single religion, a history of being different and physical isolation.
So what dose ever one think? Neutral indapandice minded Deseret or "Fortress Utah" Southern mounten Bastion of the west and the Consitution. Pift if nothing else have FDR hold up there, its flanked by mountains and desert, a relativly small force could hold it.
What do you think? Critiqes?

[leadfool]

See You at Kubla con

[Doc Twilight]

We'll definitely be there:)

Incidentally, the rules we'll be using have been finalized, after many playtests. "Heroes of the Russian Civil War", a modification of Brother Against Brother, have proven to work very well, with a few tweaks for the period.

-Doc

[commissarmoody]

What days and events will ever one be playing at Kubla con? I will be in the Sac yeah this weeknd for a weding.

[Skrapwelder]

I'll be there all weekend. I'm looking forward to Doc's game.

[Conquistador]

Geez-Louise,    I don't need to be tempted    by this! 

 

 

Gracias,

Glenn

[Cory]

Yes, yes you do.


Actually it's not so bad. When we first started fiddling with the concept it was because are gangster and pulp collections had grown too large and if we wanted to get that much lead on the table we needed a better excuse.. It is only lately that we've added game specific figures.

[paul c]

In the early 1930s, the communist party in Germany (KPD) had a uniformed section, designed to fight the SA. This photo shows that the US Communists copied both the uniform style of their German comrades and their peculiar musical instruments. Anyone know anything about these wierd intruments? Inspiration for Communist militia in VACW?

http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/En...s&caller=search

[ar-pharazon]

First, before I comment, a dear friend has informed me that I should get my facts right. I seem to have made a guffaw that I -always- get annoyed about when I hear it from my students, and others. Lindbergh, was in fact, a National Socialist sympathizer, not just a Fascist sympathizer (he was, in fact both). Different political movements sprouting from the same tree. (And believe me, if the choice had to be made, you'd much rather have to live under a Fascist).

Could this lead to further mob splits. If you have actual anti-semitic factions on the go then you not only have everyday Jewish workers but you also have Jewish gangsters like Dutch Schultz and Bugsie Siegel.

Would/Could the Jewish gangsters help their co-religionists

Given Il Duce's crack downs on the Mafia in ITaly, would the Mob be anti-Fascist?

Is this taking place in the same milieu as the British split into factions?

If so then what is happening in Canada? Does this reduce war supplies from America to Britian, does Franco take over Spain more quickly without the International Brigades from Britain?

All very complex, my brain hurts