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Author Topic: VSF Inspiring poster!  (Read 6148 times)

Offline Fjodin

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VSF Inspiring poster!
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:11:29 AM »


Why VSF? Because you can see airships, early planes and zulu war era uniform!

Offline gamer Mac

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 10:28:30 AM »
Hey there is a boy scout on the left ???
Nice picture

Offline joroas

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 10:36:06 AM »
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Hey there is a boy scout on the left

I can't help thinking that the sneaky side of Baden-Powell's plan was to create boys ready for military service.
'So do all who see such times. But that is not for us to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that we are given.'

Offline Mr. Burning

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 11:10:07 AM »
I can't help thinking that the sneaky side of Baden-Powell's plan was to create boys ready for military service.

'Heres your badge for giving johnny foreigner a taste of cold steel'

I can imagine scouts in a VSF setting now.

Offline Conquistador

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 11:21:48 AM »
I can't help thinking that the sneaky side of Baden-Powell's plan was to create boys ready for military service.

I didn't see a smiley face so I guess that "comment" was intentional.   >:(

Maybe Scouts (Been there, done that, got the Eagle badge) just enjoy the setting (Nothing like the Sierra Nevada Mountains, Death Valley at night, or the beach - sand, rocky, or cliffs - at sunrise to remind you that there is life outside "the city,") the skills, the comradeship, and a touch of history.   :-*

Life is an adventure, not a conspiracy.   8)

Now  :o if you want a conspiracy for a game setting...  there are so many insanely twisted thought processes from the Real World (patent pending) that you should ever run out of "good" ideas.   lol

Gracias,

Glenn
Viva Alta California!  Las guerras de España,  Las guerras de las Américas,  Las guerras para la Libertad!

Offline Plynkes

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 11:23:16 AM »
In VSF games, you simply must refer to him as Sir Robert Bathing-Towel.
With Cat-Like Tread
Upon our prey we steal...

Offline Mr. Burning

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 11:27:36 AM »
In VSF games, you simply must refer to him as Sir Robert Bathing-Towel.

Which makes him sound particularly fruity in connection with the scouts  :D

Offline Plynkes

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010, 11:41:17 AM »
Even at the time it was published, wags such as we tittered at the double entendre in the title of his book "Scouting for Boys." Assuming smutty things about people isn't a new phenomenon.  :)

Yes, he did want to instill Edwardian morals into little boys, and teach them valuable military skills so they could be the next generation of warriors, but there was nothing sneaky about it. He was quite honest in that regard. He also wanted them to have fun, doing the kind of out-doorsy stuff he loved doing. He wanted them to enjoy themselves as well as learn useful skills. It wasn't a secret conspiracy, most people at the time would have seen nothing wrong in it. It was before the catastrophe of 1914-18 changed the way many people thought about war. A different time.

Incidentally, this rather cool poster from the Great War was created by Baden-Powell...

(Note the boy scout passing ammo to the Tommy.)
« Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 11:43:02 AM by Plynkes »

Offline argsilverson

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 12:36:46 PM »
Well said Plynkes. Initially Baden Powells thought so. Remember that scouts were in practise formed to use boys in non combattant military service. This tradition was still carried at least in the periphery of europe, like greece. Actually boy scouts were used in some early 20th c. conflicts, in most cases collecting goods for the army but in some cases were used in scouting/reconnaisance and even intelligence duties.
I give you some of my experience on scoutism.

I was a boy scout in late 60's in Greece and indeed the main intention was, to  train kids for their military  future, at least for boys.  (the motto of the time was something like for "King, country and religion"). In the scopes of scoutism as per the official book we had then, as far as I remember was stated: " to prepare young boys for their military service".  I left scoutism early,  just on the outbreak of the dictatorship we had then, so I had little time spend with them.

Some 30 years later both my kids joined boy scouts (though my younger is a daughter! since in the 90's scoutism, at least here, was open for both sexes) and we found that this militarism was minimal. They learned lots of skills (cooking, camping, surviving) and enjoyed themselves. They both left scouting at the age of 18-19, but what they learned helped them in their years ahead. To the time, I think that scoutism proved most useful for my son. He has, already,  spent some months in Sahara (and in other places like greek locations and Cyprus)  doing palaentological excavations and his learned skills helped him very much. Next August he will join the army for his compulsory military service, but I do not know yet if scoutism will help him or not.

Both nice posters.
boy scouts with their montana hats and shorts would be a nice addition for a british Victorian-Edwardian SF army.


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Offline answer_is_42

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2010, 12:55:13 PM »
Why VSF? Because you can see airships, early planes and zulu war era uniform!
Not really VSF. There's no fiction at all. Historical inaccuracy, but no SF...

It is a very cool image though. Where is it from?
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Offline Dewbakuk

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2010, 01:03:01 PM »
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boy scouts with their montana hats and shorts would be a nice addition for a british Victorian-Edwardian SF army.

Sold by the Perry twins under their Mafeking set.
So many projects..... so little time.......

Offline argsilverson

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2010, 01:04:18 PM »
Sold by the Perry twins under their Mafeking set.

never seen a photo of the minis.
Is there any pic?
I think they have side caps and no montanas.

Offline joroas

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2010, 01:11:20 PM »
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Next August he will join the army for his compulsory military service, but I do not know yet if scoutism will help him or not

We have a few Cypriot boys living in the UK avoiding this...........

Offline Dewbakuk

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2010, 01:12:41 PM »
never seen a photo of the minis.
Is there any pic?
I think they have side caps and no montanas.

You're right, they do have side caps, sorry. Left hand side of this pic.


Offline argsilverson

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Re: VSF Inspiring poster!
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2010, 01:16:12 PM »
We have a few Cypriot boys living in the UK avoiding this...........

usually cypriots enter military service at the age of 18 and then go for studies, so some might already have served.
In greece enter military service around 19/20 yoa but students can graduate first and then join the army. My son just graduated from University and because he wants to travel for postgraduate studies he thinks that it is better to go and serve this year just finish this obligation, too.

 

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