Miniatures research: German Shako Policemen and Gangsters "M"-Style

[joroas]

There are some cannon Fodder minis on this site:
http://wk.frothersunite.com/sc/pulp/Pulpsc.htm

Australian manufacturer of a variety of 28mm ranges set during the inter-war years. I've been told these figures are very crisp and that the pictures don't do them justice, but haven't been able to verify yet."Kameraden": European revolutionaries of 1919-1923 in 28mm. First up: Germans.

The other photo has a guy in just that jacket.

[carlos marighela]

Alas, they do, do them justice. I have some and to be honest...... they aren't wonderful. They vary all over the place in size, which is probably OK but the proportions on most are gruesome. Cartoonish faces, stiff posing. That said there's usually one or maybe two figures per pack that's useable. Fond as I am of the works of Georg Grosz, I'd be circumspect about using his paintings as the basis of my sculpting 

BTW it's a fairly old range and unless the new owners have a rush of blood I very much doubt it's one that will be added to.

[traveller]

Six years later....have we got any closer to finding a proxy for 1918-1930 German policemen?

[tin shed gamer]

  excellent ,I was looking for an idea some Banana republic police/ Germanic- Slavic secert police .I think these chaps will do nicely.
Mark.

[FramFramson]

Yes, we could definitely use some German policemen! I have French Gendarmes and Bobbies, but no German police. Was thinking about this just yesterday when the subject of coppers came up in the Pulp forum.

The question Tin Shed is are you going to do pre-3rd Reich or post 3rd Reich coppers? Though based on the pictures from the previous page, it seems the changes between eras is mostly minor.

[tin shed gamer]

Your right most of the differences seem to be things that could be painted in.Ive not had the chance to do any research so I'm not sure if the sword and hanger are dress items only it might just be easier to ake the sword as an attachable item.
I'll be turning out a set of three to go with the secert police figure which ran off to be cast this morning.
Should be be able to fit them in during the week to ten days as long as the paid stuff stays on track.
I'll be adding them to the Ealing stuff.(I want to a ' the lady vanishes ' themed game at the end of the month.)
Mark.

[FramFramson]

I can't imagine the sword was daily dress... I would lay money on it just being a purely ceremonial/formal ornament.

Colour is an interesting question, as always. I know the pre-Reich police would have had a distinctive dark green uniform, but the later police seem to have a much lighter uniform. And no idea on trim & tabs. The big physical difference might be if the pre-Reich police had straight trousers.

[tin shed gamer]

I'm not so sure about the sword as the chap in the darker uniform is on a horse and it's looks to be a sabre.where as the chap in the lighter uniform has a ceremonial tooth pick.

[FramFramson]

I can't find them at the moment, but there were some photos of Weimar policemen (in a LAF thread about wacky and weird Weimar police vehicles), but none of the officers shown in those "On the job" photos appeared to have swords (though I think they were all in trucks and motorbikes, so not 100% visible). Or much adornment to their uniforms for that matter.

Can't find that thread, but I did find this link to a VERY useful site with loads of photos: http://www.kukri.de/ (just run it through google translate).

EDIT: Found it!

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=46010.0

Wacky!

[traveller]

I am looking for 1920s German police looking like these. The top and bottom from 1923 and the middle from 1926:

[traveller]

I think I solved the problem "good enough" this morning:





Brigade WW1 Germans in pickelhaube decapitated and replaced with Foundry FPW Jäger heads. The remaining problem is that the shako has the eagle and not the star. They do not have backpacks but still a bit too much equipment for street police.

[tin shed gamer]

No worries  ,
I'm literally about to start the first head this morning as I've ready managed to paint my self into a corner,(every thing I'm working on has wet clay some where so I've a spare hour)
Mark.

[carlos marighela]

 Nicely done! Maybe too much kit for ordinary coppers but probably just about right for schutzpolizei.

[joroas]

Empress carries the Tsuba range:

http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart57.htm