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Author Topic: Schutztruppe Askari fella needs your expert opinion (WIP)  (Read 6677 times)

Offline Mycenius

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Re: Schutztruppe Askari fella needs your expert opinion (WIP)
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2011, 07:03:10 AM »
Mycenius, thanks... Should you also be so kind to mention the paints you are using would be great. I am not aiming for 100% accuracy by the way... I am just looking for a khaki that looks good but also isn't too far off the mark. I hope I haven't given a false impression of what I am trying to achieve.

Unfortunately Rem I can't answer that as the figs I have were an 'opportunity buy' off a chap in the U.S. - I have a second unpainted unit of another 20-figs so have the challenge at some stage of replicating the colour myself and trying to provide a compatible outcome so I can mix the 40-figs together to produce 2 units cotnaining some of each...

For example, I have no idea if the following tone is accurate, but I would like to achieve something like that:


Well I think vLV is looking pretty smashing above and not too far off the right colour. WW1 Officers (most notably in the Colonies) still often had their own tailored uniforms anyway (at least early war) so can have some variance too - but I personally think if you can emulate Frank's colours you've got a pretty good final result there - and the colours did lighten with age (fading, etc) so can be lighter - I have some Schutztruppe in Sudwesters who are probably a bit too light - they err towards a yellowy off-white rather than Khaki (which I'm not sure is very historical)...

Anyway here's some rough photos to illustrate the type of colour I was thinking of - NOTE: I don't think this is necessarily an ideally accurate colour - it's probably too 'light brown' but should give you an idea of the direct to err in - I have taken these shots with the camera hand-held and using a flash (with diffuser) so the colour may not exactly reflect what it really is (especially if your monitor and graphics card are not calibrated to the same colour standard, etc, etc). But hopefully they will illustrate the point about not being scared to err towards a light/faded brown look - I think most people have a bit too much yellow in their Khaki (which should really only be appropriate for the odd British Khaki worn in the 1880's in the Sudan, etc)...

 

Needless to say your chaps should end up looking many times better than these regardless of what colour 'Khaki' you end up with.

FWIW I think I have to figure out if I can ink or wash (and/or Dry Brush) these chaps of mine a bit to get more detail out and such (before contemplating doing anything with the unpainted 20) - or whether the combination of the Brigade Games figures low detail relief (something peculiar to these particular Brigade figs IME) and the existing paint job mean I'm better to just sell them on EBay and buy some Copplestones to mix with the other Brigade chaps and do all 40-figs from scratch...
« Last Edit: March 09, 2011, 07:24:11 AM by Mycenius »

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Re: Schutztruppe Askari fella needs your expert opinion (WIP)
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2011, 05:53:51 PM »
I would keep the Brigade ones. One can always own Brigade and Copplestone. :) To tell you the truth, the only reason I didn't like them as much were the puttees. The Brigade ones are a bit too thick.

The colour of your Askari looks like a dark Vallejo Iraqui Sand. Maybe I could use Iraqui Sand to lighten up my base colour of Green Ochre. My strategy for the next ones seems to be that I will darken the Green Ochre for the shade and then from from there with either Iraqui Sand or Dark Sand. We'll see how that works out. This guy was given a glaze of Green Ochre and it was darkened a bit by that. Also the yellow bite has become a bit milder. I am happy with him now and he will be varnished soon.

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Re: Schutztruppe Askari fella needs your expert opinion (WIP)
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2011, 11:53:44 AM »
Hey guys. I am still in my mad chase for a good Khaki tone and I was wondering if you could give me an opinion. I found this in Tom Weiss' site and I was wondering whether or not the tone he used for his US Paras would be a good tone for African Schutztruppe Khaki.

You can see it here:

http://www.twfigurines.de/wwtwo/uspara/uspara01.htm

Whatcha think?

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Re: Schutztruppe Askari fella needs your expert opinion (WIP)
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2011, 09:39:07 PM »
I'm sure Plynkes must have painted some 19thC Germans in Khaki. do a search for him and you should get a good idea of what they should look like (as well as having a good laugh reading his game reports).

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Re: Schutztruppe Askari fella needs your expert opinion (WIP)
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2011, 09:44:43 PM »
Nah, my Schutztruppe were done yonks ago and are a bit shit to be honest. The colour of the uniforms especially is all over the place. I've already spoken with Dimitri on the subject via PM, but unfortunately we speak different paint languages. I can just about ask directions to the train station in GW and Coat d'Arms, whereas he speaks Vallejo and Foundry. We need an interpreter!  :)
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Re: Schutztruppe Askari fella needs your expert opinion (WIP)
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2011, 10:39:16 PM »
My silence is due to the fact I use CDA and hobby paints not vallejo or foundry. I do think they would look superb in the Tom Weiss yank colour though
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Re: Schutztruppe Askari fella needs your expert opinion (WIP)
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2011, 10:40:58 PM »
I am probably pestering Plynkes enough as it is! :) And as you've said, Dylan, we're used to different tools. Yet, I did place an order for your Khaki paints and I am looking forward to try them out as well. I love learning new "languages"! :)

It's been a bit frustrating last weekend. I was hoping to paint some proper miniatures (Saxons or otherwise) and I got stuck trying out different Khaki solutions overpainting and rejecting over and over again. Very annoying. Thankfully, next to Plynkes, Frank and the Professor also gave me some advice, so I am hopeful. Sorry if I've gone a bit overboard with this.  ::)

PS: Thanks Svennn. As I am trying to produce a mixture of Khakis in this unit I will try TW's guide as well.

 

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