A Very American Civil War of today

[carlos marighela]

Yeah the NRA is a lobby group. I don't know any one who is ready to take a bullet for them 

Well there was one guy.......

[commissarmoody]

Bahahahahaha! But he is already dead.
And I guess I had also forgot about Ted Nugget to.

[carlos marighela]

You know this whole thing would be a damn sight cooler set in the early 'seventies. You get the Panthers  who are immensely cool and Copplestone, handily, does a range of useful figures. You get to crank up the MC5  on the stereo and play Mad Like Eldridge Cleaver or just play Gil Scott Hermon's The Revolution Will Not be Televised, over and over.

The there's the Weather Underground, Patty Hearst and the SLA, much cooler cars, etc Blaxploitation riffs, etc to draw on.

[commissarmoody]

Agreed, revolutionary's back then had some class and style. Would also allow me to use my Vietnam era troops in the USA.

[Warren Abox]

You know this whole thing would be a damn sight cooler set in the early 'seventies.

That would also help remind everyone not to take the whole thing too seriously.  Anyone up for Ken Kesey's Mercenary Pranksters?  Travelling around inside a convoy of specially converted armored personnel carriers complete with psychedelic paint jobs.  Their specialty, naturally enough, would be chemical warfare of the psychotropic kind, if you catch my meaning.

[CptJake]

Several comments (opinions at best) have already been made that would ignite a war on another three letter forum - and quite rightly, IMO.

And the guy who argues to nuke the thread early on to keep the war from happening would get banned from that forum.

 

[commissarmoody]

And talking about revolutions or civil war in the 70s I give you.
http://winterof79.blogspot.com/

[carlos marighela]

And the guy who argues to nuke the thread early on to keep the war from happening would get banned from that forum.

 

That rather depends on the political leanings of the poster and whether the owner of the site in question has his magic g-string riding up his crack on that particular day. Tis a funny place. Of course if you wanted immunity over there, change your posting name to Jimmy Savile. 

[carlos marighela]

If these don't convince to go 1970s.....

[carlos marighela]

Then maybe this will....

[Brummie]

I don't think putting it back 20-30 years ago would make it any less serious mind (at least the subject matter). The social issues facing the U.S today are only evolved issues it was faced with back then. And in some cases not enough water has gone under the bridge for some folks. Its like wargaming WW2, still a lot of people who remember it/affected by it, and it has to be one of the most horrendous wars in modern human history, but we still game it.
At the end of the day we're only using these actual facts as a foundation to extend and create a story/backdrop, doesn't mean its going to happen.

Its really all about personal opinion/perspective. But I think picking and choosing reduces people to double-standards. Its perfectly fine to just not treat it seriously given the circumstances, treat it as a story that gives your wargames some extra spice and play a few games.

No ones going to get offended at a bloke playing in his cellar with some beers and a few mates with toy soldiers, with a backstory that has some real world facts brought in. If they did, we'd be have been screwed for playing games based around WW2 and Post WW2 wars.

I personally think now that  U.S Civil War would probably have numerous mini factions, but the overall conflict would be between a Neo-Confederate-Traditional U.S-Corporate styled faction (lots of money but not many troops) V.S a sort of 'Middle Class' movement, perhaps backed by some local authorities/businesses or Foreign powers (Iran/Cuba ) and perhaps a Third party like a U.S Government and what Loyal Military/Community assets remain trying to restore.

Maybe it would then progress to have independent states trying to avoid the conflict, Mexican drug lords, mercenaries etc.

[carlos marighela]

Or maybe just giant corporate-cult that splits int two factions Anaheim and Orlando and struggles for the American heartland. 

[CptJake]

I'm actually not convinced a new Civil War with clear sides could happen at this point.  I think what you end up seeing is Rodney King riots at a larger level so that major urban centers become no-go areas and with outskirt municipalities trying to cut off outside access to defend what they have.   Fed and state govt initiallly try to maintain or regain control.   Food/water riots ensue.  More rural areas are generally not affected, at least initially.  But I don't see any real organized threat to the Fed Gov't attempting an actual revolution/regime change.   You may have bands of insurgent types, but no real state let alone national organization to them, and most will be better organized criminal gangs out to get what they can vice establish autonomous territories (they won't have any real desire to govern/provide gov't type services).

Just my take.  Frankly I hope and pray we don't go down that path.  I've been places where the gov't has collapsed and it would deeply sadden me to see it happen here.

[carlos marighela]

Indeed.

America's a tricky place to set anything based on ideology. The last time they had anything approaching a left-right divide in their national politics, at least in terms that the rest of us would identify as such, was probably 1972 and Nixon won in a landslide. 

[commissarmoody]

i agree with pretty much ever thing you just said Scurv.
If any thing did happen, it would most likely be, small groups engaging in what can best be described as terrorist acts, for some most likely imaged slight.

And it would most likely be Fed, (ATF, FBI, NSA) against what ever Terrorist flavor of the week.  And even though there are some folks treating to break from the US, while I really don't give any of them any credence. It would take a total collapse of the system on a national level to have any thing approaching a real civil war.