Author Topic: ? about Panther 2 tuuret (Read 3511 times)

DowVooVoo · « **on:** September 18, 2011, 12:53:11 PM »

Was talking to some buds and they said that the germans ,late war put the panther 2 turret on panzer4 hull? If true does anyone have pics? I thought the turret ring was smaller on the mk4 then the panther. Thanks for any help.

Dags · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2011, 01:34:16 PM »

Never went beyond the planning stage as the Panther 2 (which was to have a narrower turret than the production Panther) never made it beyond the prototype stage (there's one on display in the US).

Could find a drawing if that helps....

Aldramelech · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2011, 01:36:42 PM »

And to mix it up a bit further there was a unit that had a Panther with a P1V turret

DowVooVoo · « **Reply #3 on:** September 18, 2011, 01:46:26 PM »

Thanks much!

V · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2011, 11:30:50 PM »

The remains of the Panther 2 turret are at Bovington.

Was outside for years, till someone pointed out that the rusty lump of metal by the car park was in fact a Panther 2 turret...

The design on the Panzer IV chassis was flawed, the uell couldnt take the weight and the gun barrels weight put immense strain on the front running gear.

I still built one in 20mm though...

Gunbird · « **Reply #5 on:** September 20, 2011, 07:36:59 AM »

Yup, and here it is (on a new base):

Might rebase it again at a later date.

Aldramelech · « **Reply #6 on:** September 20, 2011, 08:35:36 AM »

Quote from: V on September 19, 2011, 11:30:50 PM

The remains of the Panther 2 turret are at Bovington.

Was outside for years, till someone pointed out that the rusty lump of metal by the car park was in fact a Panther 2 turret...

The design on the Panzer IV chassis was flawed, the uell couldnt take the weight and the gun barrels weight put immense strain on the front running gear.

I still built one in 20mm though...

That was me actually

Helen · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2011, 08:46:31 AM »

Very interesting, thank you all.

Helen

mondria · « **Reply #8 on:** September 20, 2011, 08:51:32 PM »

thats not a Panther 2 turret thats a Panther F turret also called schmalturn designed in 1944 the Panther 2 in 1942 2 really different beasts, as far as I know there was no new turret designed for the Panther 2.

Gunbird · « **Reply #9 on:** September 20, 2011, 09:06:31 PM »

There was a new turret designed for the Panther 2 that was very similar to the F but significantly better in armour protection.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barryslemmings/4787775812/

The visual difference with an F turret is hardly noticable on a model.

The original statement of the posters mates that a Panther II turret was mated with a Panzer IV is wrong though.

Aldramelech · « **Reply #10 on:** September 21, 2011, 08:56:25 AM »

For those who are confused by the Panther familly tree

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank#Panther_II

Yes I know its Wikipedia, but it saves me typing half a page and its not bad actually

Aldramelech · « **Reply #11 on:** September 21, 2011, 09:00:51 AM »

Quote from: V on September 19, 2011, 11:30:50 PM

The remains of the Panther 2 turret are at Bovington.

Was outside for years, till someone pointed out that the rusty lump of metal by the car park was in fact a Panther 2 turret...

The design on the Panzer IV chassis was flawed, the uell couldnt take the weight and the gun barrels weight put immense strain on the front running gear.

I still built one in 20mm though...

It wasn't in the car park, it was in the scrap pile in the workshops.

V · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2011, 05:42:09 PM »

When I last saw it, it was beside the main car park. The corner opposite the old entrance.

panzerfaust200 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2011, 06:19:58 PM »

Quote from: V on September 21, 2011, 05:42:09 PM

When I last saw it, it was beside the main car park. The corner opposite the old entrance.

it was indeed by the old carpark... had been a sodding range target for years.... oh if only they knew

Aldramelech · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2011, 06:46:27 PM »

Not when it was found

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