Defiance Games USMC Marines!

[matakishi]

yawn...

[manatic]

yawn...

This.

[stone-cold-lead]

So no sprues, as promised, eh?

But we've seen the moulds! 

The unfinished moulds that is. Perhaps Defiance should have kept their powder dry until things were a bit more definate?

[Dr.Falkenhayn]

Looks like the Bugs will be up for Pre Order soon aswell,found a very promising Teaser Pic
http://www.san-ai-usa.com/special/images/resin_l.jpg

go Defiance,go 

[Sangennaru]

mmm. Teasing is good, but overteasing is boring. C'mon, defiance! I'm really positive on those pieces, but i'm starting to losing interest, after... well, 4 months? You should just announce them when ready!

[manatic]

mmm. Teasing is good, but overteasing is boring. C'mon, defiance! I'm really positive on those pieces, but i'm starting to losing interest, after... well, 4 months? You should just announce them when ready!

I guess that if they did, they wouldn't have the pre-order payments to actually finance the operation.

[Inso]

There are probably no pictures because there is no product yet.  I really would like to be proven wrong but I doubt we'll see sprue pics or even an injection moulded, plastic marine for a long while yet.

I DARE Defiance to prove me wrong. 

I stand by what I said in December...and it still applies...

[CptJake]

I love how their webstore lists the marines as

SKU  DFG001
In stock
$29.95

http://defiancegames.com/index.php/shop#ecwid:category=1831024&mode=product&product=7831674

That isn't deceptive at all....

[matakishi]

I think it's just sad. Delusional idiots attempting to con gullible idiots out of their money for imaginary figures that, if they ever do appear, always look like shit despite having been hyped to the heavens.
The hype is used to generate money from the vapourware to (hopefully) fund the eventual production of the miniatures which is disingenuous at best, criminal at worst.
When everything goes tits up it will be someone else's fault, not Tony's of course, as before.
The latest delays are the fault of an unnamed, unattributable, source from 'the toolmakers' who admits all in a public letter *cough* bollocks *cough*.
Soon the sock puppets will appear all over the internet as Tony has conversations with himself in an attempt to bolster his blamelessness and reassure his clamouring fans.

Here's an idea Tony, how about, instead of:
Have idea, Announce idea as available product, collect money, lie about why product isn't shipping.
Why don't you try:
Make figures, Announce figures, Sell figures.
Like everybody else manages to.

Pricks.

[Sangennaru]

Why don't you try:
Make figures, Announce figures, Sell figures.
Like everybody else manages to.

hum, that should work! =) Cool!

[Dentatus]

There you go, Paul... thinking again.

[commissarmoody]

I tell you one, thing, I fell for it, and ordered two boxes. I will most likely get rid of them once/if they ever show up. Because I don't see these guys coming threw. And don't need another set of relatively useless figs sitting around in my to paint bin.
I am not to happy about it.

[matakishi]

Lol Scurv. I get pissed about lots of things but don't usually bother making it public
These people really get to me though because I know many, many people involved with our hobby who work hard to produce figures, rules, scenery etc and just get on and do it. They don't spend all their time bigging themselves up whilst letting people down/ripping people off, they just do their thing.
I wish Tony would cut the bullshit and either make his figures or shut up and piss off.

[stone-cold-lead]

I'm not convinced that Tony and Defiance are pulling a con job. I think it's more likely that a lack of experience and professionalism has seen them come unstuck. I'd have thought they'd have learned these lessons from the first time round but clearly they haven't.

[Plynkes]

I dont think I have ever seen Matakishi pissed at something before. Thats pretty telling right there.

You must have not been here at the height of the Wargames Factory rants then, Scurvy. My ears are still ringing.