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Offline CptJake

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Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« on: January 16, 2012, 05:33:33 PM »
I got myself the Warlord Horns of the Buffalo set for Christmas.   I'm getting ready to start painting some of the fantastic resin terrain and wonder what color the wagons would have been.   Were they some official British Army color (if so what would that have been?) or just whatever wood color I feel will work?

Additionally, I got some BTD stuff, to include a 7 pounder and a gattling gun, what color would the wood parts of their assemblies be?

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 05:39:47 PM »
Wagon's and the wood assemblies on 7pdr were blue, think Citadel shadow grey with a lighter highlight.
Gatling's were the same but I've seen photo's where they look darker.

I'll fetch a pic.

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 05:43:52 PM »

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 05:46:16 PM »
I believe the official colour for General Service Wagons was blue/grey, as in Matthew83's picture. However, due to the vast shortfall in transportation, Chelmsford was obliged to hire large numbers of civilian wagons, so you have plenty of leeway.

The general service wagon was quite a short, compact thing. If the model is a long stretchy-looking article it is probably civilian and you can paint it how you like. Green with red wheels is a colour scheme I have seen which looks rather natty.
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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 05:51:34 PM »
I believe the official colour for General Service Wagons was blue/grey, as in Matthew83's picture. However, due to the vast shortfall in transportation, Chelmsford was obliged to hire large numbers of civilian wagons, so you have plenty of leeway.

The general service wagon was quite a short, compact thing. If the model is a long stretchy-looking article it is probably civilian and you can paint it how you like. Green with red wheels is a colour scheme I have seen which looks rather natty.

I concur, I have a contemporary photograph of a civilian ox wagon being driven through zululand by pioneers.
I'll go get that and post it up.

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 05:52:52 PM »
The two resin wagons are the one towards to bottom of this picture:



So, since they are the shorter ones I can go with a blue/blue gray.

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 06:07:59 PM »
Here's a civilian one, I see you're going for the blue but a word on the mealie bags; I see they're painted with red/blue stripes and to be honest I'm not sure they were used in the war.
This photo shows plain hessian as do all other contemporary photo's I've seen.



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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 06:51:08 PM »
Thanks,  I had asked about the mealie bags on another forum, specifically about the stripes and was not answered. 

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 07:30:21 PM »
Well, all I can say is that the thread was already hopelessly off-course and had hit the rocks long before I got there.


I have seen the stripes on a couple of Osprey illustrations, but not on any photos. The ones in the pictures are much finer and less noticeable than on the Warlord models. Practically pinstripes, so thin that they probably wouldn't show up in a period photo anyway, and would be near-impossible to paint to scale on a model that size.

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2012, 07:56:23 PM »
Yeah, it did get derailed.   I should have just asked here since I was looking for actual input.

I dun learned ma lesson!   Which is why I asked about the wagons here vice there.

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2012, 08:00:00 PM »
Oh, and by the way, on the picture I have the stripes are the reverse of how they are on the Warlord model. A single grey stripe flanked by two red stripes (after quite a wide gap) rather than vice versa.

Personally I'd leave them off. They will look far too prominent unless you can paint them with a needle and a microscope or something.

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2012, 08:17:00 PM »
I have some red and blue micron pens which are very thin, and I was thinking of using those.  I was trying to figure out how to do the fading/weathering though.

But since the good folks here have shown me I do not need the stripes I'll probably do without. 

I spray primed them all with a flat brown paint today, and have used a very heavy dry/wet brush of an off white on them.   They actually look pretty decent (in my opinion) and once I do the ground at the base of the baricades may be done.

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2012, 02:47:37 AM »
That other thread was a total runaway in a weird way. 

Post some pictures.  I need motivation get me started on my Rorke's Drift set. :)
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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2012, 10:27:07 AM »


Post some pictures.  I need motivation get me started on my Rorke's Drift set. :)

And be ridiculed for choosing the wrong color?   Not sure I'm up for that...
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I'll try to finish up the mealie bag barricades in the next day or two and get some pictures.  The wagons will take longer as I try to find a decent paint color to use.

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Re: Rorke's Drift wagon colors and AZW arty colors
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 03:57:06 AM »
Heh.  Post them here is what I meant. :)

I'm torn between using Citadel Shadow Grey or Vallejo Dark Blue Grey but leaning towards the Vallejo. 

 

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