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Author Topic: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart  (Read 8542 times)

Offline Prof.Witchheimer

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4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« on: March 24, 2012, 10:36:52 PM »
Not sure about the tower, looks like a paper house. Though some great structural details.

http://www.4ground.co.uk/Default.aspx?page=268&pid=282

Offline inkydave

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 10:41:42 PM »
Looks interesting. The 4ground wagons are great value for money. The tower definately needs a good lick of paint to bring it alive. Looks a bit 'flat' as is.
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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 11:42:19 PM »
Heres 4grounds own painted version. Not totally convinced. Lift off roof with interior detail. The rafters/beams are integral to the tower(not the roof), so it may be a bit fiddly to fit figs on the walkway.

Offline philhendry

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 09:19:16 AM »
I shall probably buy one - Gask Ridge frontier, here I come!

My idea is to re-roof it with home-made strips of 'tiles'.  I suspect that that will be about all it needs to make it look pretty convincing.

I think the painted version comes with more bits - doors, windows and more interior details, which you don't get in the unpainted version, but I'll ask about that.

Offline Keith

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 10:42:55 AM »
I like it, but would clad the lower section in stone-textured plasticard.
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Offline Prof.Witchheimer

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 10:53:08 AM »
Agree, what you both said, another roof, textured wall and it could look good.

Offline Mad Doc Morris

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 11:19:43 AM »
The roof definitely needs to be replaced with decent shingles. I'm also not convinced by the masoned ground floor: The walls would have been built rather from quarrystone, then plastered and painted in order to appear as impressively accurate stonework. If that's meant here as well, why, on the one hand, would you do this on the inside? And on the other hand, why isn't the whole structure plastered to make it look like a solid stone tower?
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Sorry, won't buy it.

Offline Prof.Witchheimer

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 12:37:05 PM »
Sorry, won't buy it.

unfortunately I won't buy it as well, though at the current stage of my Ancient project I really could need a tower like this. But considering the efforts needed to take care of roof and walls, it's probably easier to scratch build it.

Anyway, I really would like to see what Phil will make of it!

Offline Christian

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 01:04:53 PM »
Hmm... I won't be buying one, as I'd rather scratch-build. But I can see how it would be good for a rough-and-ready tower... it just doesn't have any character (even when painted).

Offline Mad Doc Morris

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 02:25:42 PM »
Alex, if you're looking for watchtowers for your current Germania project, you are anyway better off with wooden structures. These would be rather ad-hoc buildings, maybe like the ones proposed for the Alesia siege?


Offline Prof.Witchheimer

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2012, 02:36:05 PM »
Yes, sure, if I'm going to scratch build, I would make a wooden tower. I'm just too lazy with all terrain building things and if someone would sell a tower I like (and able to pay), I would buy it.

These towers on the pic look quite business like, like them. My current idea is to make a small fort like this one from Imperial Modellbau (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=39618.0). No barracks, just a tower and a wall.

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2012, 03:02:30 PM »
An interesting piece.
But if you are going to build a new roof and add other things,
I would scratch build it.
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Offline cataphractarius

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2012, 10:20:04 PM »
You'll probably think I'm crazy, but this is actually not too bad a model, and could work with 28mm figs (it's too large for 1/72):

http://www.amazon.de/Weico-80185-Limesturm/dp/B0002HYZM0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332710236&sr=8-1

Not exactly expensive; fairly easy to build, though the roof is slightly tricky to fit. Of course the overall finish is wood, but that's what paints are for, aren't they?  :D

Offline Prof.Witchheimer

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2012, 11:05:45 PM »
hmm..looking at that shot I have to say it's a bit too much toy for my taste.

Offline cataphractarius

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Re: 4ground Roman Limes Tower and Ox Cart
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2012, 11:51:30 PM »
Well, it is actually slightly less cheesy than in the picture, though of course it's mainly a toy; although all the lines are etched and not merely painted on, I would have replaced the roof, had not our little one already occupied it...  :D

 

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