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Offline revford

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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2008, 10:49:20 AM »
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...half-sunblock factor 89


:)

I can just imagine now a bunch of desert folk nervously spreading sunblock over the Troll.

'Now sit still or you're going to burn'

Didn't Sauron summon a great shadow, a cloud or other darkness to protect the Orcs as they attacked Gondor?
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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2008, 06:35:17 PM »
Imagine the stench of blood, gore coconut oil, aloe vera and more than twenty other remedial anti-ageing herbs and balms on the battle field.

Offline fastolfrus

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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2008, 08:03:10 PM »
Maybe they all wear sunhats, I haven't seen the figures yet.
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Offline meninobesta

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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2008, 10:31:02 PM »
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...half-sunblock factor 89

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Apparently Tolkien had mentioned that Saruman had bred te Uruk Hai to withstand sunlight better than other orcs, and if I am not mistaken Sauron had done something similar with trolls.


One thing that puzzles me from the first day I've read the fellowship of the ring is -> How many pints of lager did Saruman had to pay to that orc lady? ....
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Offline Gluteus Maximus

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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2008, 12:57:39 AM »
Quote from: "meninobesta"
Quote from: "Vanvlak"
Quote from: "hammershield"
...half-sunblock factor 89

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Apparently Tolkien had mentioned that Saruman had bred te Uruk Hai to withstand sunlight better than other orcs, and if I am not mistaken Sauron had done something similar with trolls.


One thing that puzzles me from the first day I've read the fellowship of the ring is -> How many pints of lager did Saruman had to pay to that orc lady? ....


The going rate for the Orc Ladies that live in Dudley is 1 pint & a chicken tikka ..... or so I've been told.

Offline Doomhippie

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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2008, 01:15:18 PM »
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I suppose the Hobbit film might see a relaunch of their "Battle of the 5 armies" range.

Thinking of the Hobbit.... since trolls turn to stone in sunlight, my question is, how do Harad (notoriously hot sunny climate) get half-trolls ?
On that thought, half-troll & half...what else ?



Half-trolls are mentioned in the Return of the King. During the battle on the Pelenor Fields the half-trolls are said to be fighting alongside the people of Khand (the Variags). Nothing is said about their ancestors. However, they might have been a prototype for the Olog-hai Sauron was breeding. Maybe a first field testing released in the mountains seperating Mordor from Harad.

I've always accepted them as showing how evil these Variags really are.
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« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2008, 01:21:47 PM »
There are several types of trolls that Tolkien mentions in passing. Apparently only Stone Trolls are petrified by sunlight.
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« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2008, 01:38:45 PM »
Other Trolls (and Orcs as well) fight poorly in the sunlight, but they don't turn to stone.
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« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2008, 01:43:09 PM »
Ah lovely! A semantic Tolkien discussion!

I don't think the half-trolls mentioned were actual half trolls but rather a equatorial tribe of large dark skinned men looking like what the beholder thought a half troll would look like. Don't forget that the books are written with a distinct mid 20th century and Western Europen slant.

Offline fastolfrus

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« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2008, 12:16:06 AM »
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...don't think the half-trolls ... were actual half trolls but rather a equatorial tribe of large dark skinned men....


Ah, so not actual trolls, just ugly foeigners.

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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2008, 03:04:46 AM »
I prefer the idea that half-trolls are just that.

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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2008, 09:30:14 AM »
Just had a look in the index and the Variags are only mentioned twice according to that.

"But Gothmog the lieutenant of Morgul had flung them into the fray; Easterlings with axes, and Variags of Khand. Southrons in scarlet, and out of Far Harad black men like half-trolls with white eyes and red tongues."

Notice it says like half-trolls.

"East rode the Knights of Dol Amroth driving the enemy before them: Troll-men and Variags and orcs that hated the sunlight."

It might mention half-trolls in other places, but that's the only time they are mentioned in the same place as Variags. Not a whole lot to go on. The first is clearly just a comparison, and there is no explanation whatever of the second, which is "troll-men" and not "half-trolls" anyway. That's not much to build a range of figures on, but GW don't care about that. Hell,  we don't even know what Variags are. Tolkien never describes them. They may not even be men, despite how GW have sculpted them.

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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2008, 10:07:48 AM »
Quote from: "fastolfrus"
Quote from: "hammershield"
...don't think the half-trolls ... were actual half trolls but rather a equatorial tribe of large dark skinned men....


Ah, so not actual trolls, just ugly foeigners.


In fact, I think I woke up next to a half-troll once.

Offline Conquest

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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2008, 04:12:09 PM »
You know, I've been trying to get rid of my LotR stuff for a while now. I would love to play with them, as the rules are some of my favorite too, but I just haven't the time to do much lately.

http://www.conquestminiatures.com/sale.htm

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Offline Lowtardog

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« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2008, 04:37:48 PM »
I sold all my stuff off after the movies faded into memory or rather the bargain shelf at Tesco, and think everyone else sold off their collectins at the same time. A shame as the mins are nice

 

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