Adventures in China (in the time of the Boxer rising) 1.3

[Gluteus Maximus]

Hi Helen,

would the colour scheme of the gun be accurate for late 19thc German colonial forces? I'm thinking 1870s onwards. Its a lovely photo & I like the grey body & natural wood wheels effect

Thanks,
Ian [/quote]

Hi Ian, AFAIK this would be a good colour. I was reading 'Military Operations in China 1900-1901' by Major EWM Norie (ISBN 0-89839-215-2)the official history of the campaign set in the Boxer rebellion and notating that you were looking at the Taku forts. The Germans sent the gunboat "Iltis" to provide naval gunfire support during the storming of the forts.

To quote from the book"The German "Iltis," which was fought throughout the action with conspicious gallantry, lost her gunner and 7 men killed, while her captain and about 30 men were wounded."

Best Wishes on your project.

Helen[/quote]


Thanks very much! My German East African forces arenow another [sadly small :: ] step closer to seeing a wargames table.

[Alchemy]

Seebattalion.
I start to paint them in dark blue winther uniform, as the beginning of the campaing. Figures are from "Pulp", the officer is a figure from "Brigade".

[eladio fernandez]

Hey ! They looks fantastic! Good work.

Keep going! :wink:



Eladio

[Bullshott]

Hello Alchemy

For German artillery have a look at the following:

Tiger Miniatures have a nice German colonial range, including a small mountain gun with askari crew who might lend themselves to head changes

http://www.tigerminiatiures.co.uk

London Warroom sell a good range of colonial artillery - look for the Hotchkiss 37mm revolver cannon on a land carriage - this was a quick loading light artillery piece used by the German colonial troops (it was originally designed to deter torpedo boat from attacking warships). London Warroom also do some nice traditional Chinese artillery in this range.

http://www.thelondonwarroom.com

Don't disregard Krupp field guns. Some of the Chinese imperial army units were well armed with European weapons - including Gatling    and Maxim     machineguns and Krupp field guns     . I can't see the Germans going into action against such opposition without equal or better artillery.

[warrenpeace]

The Germans sent the gunboat "Iltis" to provide naval gunfire support during the storming of the forts.

To quote from the book"The German "Iltis," which was fought throughout the action with conspicious gallantry, lost her gunner and 7 men killed, while her captain and about 30 men were wounded."

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Hmm, the Iltis would be an interesting ship project.  Got me scrambling for my Jane's Fighting Ships to see what that one looked like.  Very cool looking...

[Alchemy]

Which configuration would you like or considered more appropriate???

[Westfalia Chris]

For a turn-of-the-century gunboat, I´d say the variant with the guns on the center main deck. Place the machine-gun on the aft superstructure, the guns look a bit too heavy for that.

The bow, however, doesn´t really look appropriate at all. There should be a "wave-cutter", akin to a ramming prow. Of course, if you prefer this style, by all means go for it. But to me it looks rather more 1930s than 1890s.

[Alchemy]

You are right. For me also (once I have assembled the hull) seems very modern is more like an small WWII corvette than 1900 gunboat.

Prow can be raming or straigth, but not like "My model" (is the problem to go ahead without drawings....).

Actually, I don't know how to looks her "Older".

[twrchtrwyth]

You are right. For me also (once I have assembled the hull) seems very modern is more like an small WWII corvette than 1900 gunboat.

Prow can be raming or straigth, but not like "My model" (is the problem to go ahead without drawings....).

Actually, I don't know how to looks her "Older".

Maybe get rid of the angle on the front. Have it going straight up out of the water. :

[eladio fernandez]

Hey, in any case it looks superb!!!

Congratulations,




Eladio

[Overlord]

Nice ship  

Where did the armaments come from?

[Alchemy]

Thank you!!!

Nordenfeldt MG are from Eureka as well as 3 pdr.

12 pdr gun in casemates are from Reviresco.

[Overlord]

Thanks for that  

[former user]

won't bother you about the miniatures, they look great, and the ship very promising

since you are planning a campaign though, I propose you try it out in a prelude game, because you are shooting at a quite large enterprise here

in such long campaigns, well working rules are a prerequisite, otherwise people might get frustrated and unwilling to bring it to an end, and that would be a pity

if you are interested, I can give you some links about german uniforms of the time, but they will be in german, so you will have to stick to the pictures
PM me if

[HerbyF]

I just finished a book about some American protestant missionaries in China. It recaps there experiences in China up to and including the circumstances of there deaths. There is quite a bit of scenario background material. The book is "Massacre in Shansi" by Nat Brandt, Syracuse University Press 1994. Also I have a number of Chinese civillians fron various western ranges, Old Glory & Dixon for a couple. And Pulp Figures has some nice ones too.