Do you recognize any of these miniatures?

[Donpimpom]

While on the job to put a bit of order in my lead pile, I found a few miniatures i have no idea where they came from and I'm unable to identify them.
Do you recognize any of these miniatures?

Case 001

To me, this one looks very Citadel, could it be any kind of chaos warrior or similar, but I dont find it on the catalogs.
In the other hand, the weapon looks too small for the usual weapons on the citadel chaos miniatures.
As a plus, the tab is 100% clean and flat, no traces of name, year or brand, could this be a recast?
If so I dont care, but a recast of what?

Case 002

Any idea where these guys come from? tab has some unreadable characters.
They look like some kind of undead, at least one of them.

Case 003

These where in a box with an essex and a citadel horses, but they dont match on the horses properly so I assume they are from other manufacturers, the "elf" looks very Citadel despite their small size.

Case 004

I removed the cardboard on the base and there is no sign of manufacturer. Now I realize it looks like a kind of wizard, but it has a quiver and a bow on the back, magician-archer multiclass?

Case 005

no comments, elf with earrings, gold necklace and macho moustache, thankfully the shield spare us the frontal view of his integral nudity.

Case 006

This one i don't recognize even the creature, an orc? some kind of chaos? the tab reads "champion" and looks like citadel, but i dont find it on the catalogs, the weapon looks like broken on the upper part, but has a kind of ball and chain on the bottom, so maybe isn't broken and simply grabs it inverted?

that's all, any insight or clue will be appreciated

[Lowtardog]

Case 5 looks like an alterantive armies Sidhe

Hmm perhaps not but one very like it

http://www.alternative-armies.com/ER10_Sidhe_Heroes.htm

[The Dozing Dragon]

001 Citadel Chaos Knight/Fighter I think although normally has a GW stamp on the back of the slotta.

002 115 Chaos Knight Command
Lost Minis Link

003 Left; Essex medieval type. Right; Citadel Dark Elf old One Rider

004 Possibly from the old Asgard adventurers? Similar in style anyway **edit** not from that range, no idea 

005 Bob Olley sculpt from Alternative Armies Celtic range Sidhe Warband
Lost Minis Link

006 Citadel Hobgoblin Champion from a Regiment of Renknown
Stuff of Legends Link

[Heldrak]

In case 003, the figure on the right (with the sceptre) is a Citadel C21 Preslotta Dark Elf Hero. He is meant to be mounted on a Cold One (as seen here):

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/File:C21-02.jpg

[The Gray Ghost]

Case 005 is an Alternative Army figure, not one of the better.
They still turn up on ebay.

[Donpimpom]

Thank you all!  Guys your knowledge is encyclopedic! thanks a lot.

004 Possibly from the old Asgard adventurers? Similar in style anyway **edit** not from that range, no idea  

I will put it on "the bath" to see if there is any clue after removing the glue on the base, i would not be surprised if some greenstuff falls apart from the head

006 Citadel Hobgoblin Champion from a Regiment of Renknown
Stuff of Legends Link

Oh! should he be the 4th in the row? so is missing the upper part of the spear.

In case 003, the figure on the right (with the sceptre) is a Citadel C21 Preslotta Dark Elf Hero. He is meant to be mounted on a Cold One (as seen here):

Sadly mine was mounted in a 90's high elves horse :-(


Let me ask about a last one, (i forgot to upload it) it would be
Case 007

Hugh, Godfrey, Wart, and Otto, "G.W 1985" is on the back of all the tabs, they look like the crew of some Bretonnia or Empire war engine but i dont find them in any catalog or stuff of legends, any clue?

[thebinmann]

Those guys are the bomard crew from the empire war machine

[evand]

Case 004 looks like metal magic - is that a book it's holding? Or perhaps a baby in swaddling?

Gotta love these mysteries 

[Donpimpom]

@thebinmann yes, right, despite my lack of skill to browse stuff of legends, yesterday night  i succeed to find them on a picture of Warhammer Armies, (page  59) Wart and otto as crew of a bombard, while Godfrey and Hugh as crew of a canon

@evand it's hilding a book, the books is open, wears a kind of tunic, and the head looks weird like wearing an oversized hood, lets see what unveils after stripping it.
I love those misteries too

[HerbyF]

Case 3 on the left is Essex. They never did fit the horses very well.

[Daeothar]

Case 001 looks like a GW Chaos Warrior from the early nineties, probably for Warhammer Quest or Talisman. Maybe even Advanced Hero Quest. It could also well be a recast.

Several factors speak for that theory;
- The blank tab. GW slottas (and it is most definitaly a GW mini) always have text on them. Usually the faction/army on the front and the letters GW and the year it was moulded on the back.
- The fact it is obviously cast in harder leadfree pewter. This style of Chaos Warrior is from the early nineties, when the metal GW used still contained lead. It should therefore be much darker, especially if it was cast back then. By looking at it, it was probably never painted, and then the discolouration could be expected to be even more severe. (unless of course you've kept it in a perfect vacuum for about 20 years. Hey; it could happen...)

Best bet is to check for double mouldlines; see if there are any parallel mouldlines on the mini. If there are, it is most certainly a recast.

Could be that it is a re-issue by GW of course, but then it probably is a bit of a rarity, considering the blank slotta.

Still a nice mini though. Wanna get rid of it?

[Donpimpom]

@Daeothar i agree with you the blank slotta and the alloy dont match the old look of the miniature, about double casting lines i dont see them.
Took some new photos, click on the link for bigger version.
Maybe I'm wrong but when someone recast is supposed he will recast something "popular" not a miniature hard to find on the catalogs, isn't?
I agree is a nice miniature but very probably will end on the trades bag.

Big size http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h382/donpimpom/trades/helpid001B-g.jpg

About 004 after stripping the paint (will require and additional session) looks like this

Big size version here http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h382/donpimpom/trades/helpid003B-g.jpg
nicely done base with tiles, but very ugly mouldline, and no traces at all of manufacturer under the base, still a mistery.

[Dolmot]

That warrior is indeed an odd case. It looks especially like the '88 fighters / battle lords / chaos warriors series, maybe thugs too, but I can't find any match.

At one point I was collecting this kind of "tin can" warriors from various manufacturers to make my chaos units...well, chaotic. I have some from Grenadier, Ral Partha, Heartbreaker and maybe others too. Some of them are close but not exactly like this.

The old chaos knight showcase doesn't seem to answer this one either.

Besides, the base issue is really odd. Most classic companies (by far) used integral "thumbnail" bases. Those few who had slottas usually put their name or at least some identifier on the tag. There is the remote chance of recasting but as said, it's an unlikely mini for that.

And yet, it looks so familiar that I think I have it. Oh well, maybe I manage to figure it out some day...

[robh]

The blank tab could just be that the figure is a master or sample casting. I saw a lot of GW figures that had the copyright and range information added to the master castings in greenstuff before the production moulds were made. Especially among figures where one pose was going to be chopped and resculpted to make a similar but different model (a favourite Perry method).

A master would also account for the different coloured metal. Masters were produced in a harder (higher tin?) alloy for better detail transfer to the production moulds. There was a separate casting room for master figures at Eastwood back then....that I never got to play in

[Donpimpom]

yes, i considered the possibility to be a variation, as robh suggested, same body but different weapon, or head, etc, with the orc&gobbos miniatures of that period is very frequent, so why chaos minis should be different?
well, i browsed all the categories for chaos warrior and chaos thugs on solegends and ccm wiki without success, the closest model i found is a Chaos Dwarf from Marauder, as far as i know some chaos dwarves where made as dwarf replica of human size chaos champion miniatures.
Check MM90/3 bottom left dwarf
http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mm90cdwf.htm