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Author Topic: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms  (Read 102070 times)

Offline Stauffenberg

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2008, 10:07:49 PM »
Help - can someone advise me how to get images into a reply?

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2008, 12:07:33 AM »
Black can be tough to do. On way to get a good transition is to mix charcoal and black and continue to use more charcoal to do highlights. Another is to use a dark navy blue and do the same thing, using more of the highlight with just a tiny bit of off white or sky blue to get the highest highlights!

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2008, 12:08:36 AM »
Quote from: Ignatieff
The Copplestone figures I have are wearing jackets with double rows of buttons.  Presumably these would be black?

always.

Remeber that the Navy has a different idea of what "black" means. Black means a very, very, very, very dark shade of blue so highlight your jackets with dark shades of blue and not charcoal/grays.

Wow, I was told you were experienced but didn't know you served during the revoluton...   ;D lol

russian navy black is black. There were times I wore that stuff and can assure you that was black

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2008, 01:06:48 PM »
Help - can someone advise me how to get images into a reply?

Photobucket account and then its a peice of cake.  I will call you.
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All limitations are self imposed.  Work hard and dream big.

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2009, 05:04:56 PM »
there is a tamiya acrylic called "anthracite", that I like to use for highlighting what is meant to be "black".

remember that black cloth dye is achieved either with a blueish/greenish or a brownish very dark tone, which show when the dye starts to fade
I wonder to which colour russian navy cloth would fade

German navy had also Black - blueish black

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2010, 10:19:34 PM »
I wonder to which colour russian navy cloth would fade

It is hard to tell without more colour pictures!


The colour registration is poor, but comparing the trousers to jacket, I would say that the trousers faded to dark grey, whereas the jackets perhaps took on a bluish tint.

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2010, 06:03:46 AM »
Black, highlighted with mixed in white:

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2010, 06:30:15 AM »
Book: "Russian sea uniform 1696-1917"

It's quite a download, but well worth the wait. Nice that it had so many English translations.

Can you answer me one thing? I have pictures of early Bolshevik sailors in usual jackets and striped shirts, but peaked caps. They are black-and-white pictures but it seems to me that they have coloured cap bands. What are they? Have they just plundered senior officers' caps? Or are they some sort of specialist?

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2010, 07:42:28 AM »

You about these band speak?
These bands mean the attribute to crew guard nave.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2010, 08:13:50 AM by cuprum »

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2010, 09:42:23 AM »
You about these band speak?

No those are St George bands. Георгиевский ?? Very interesting to see them though. Before today I had not realised they existed for sailors.

In my photo there are sailors but some wear a furazhka (фуражка) like soldiers, not the usual sailors cap. It has a black top, but coloured band. Like this http://russiamilitaria.ru/uploads/post-157-1163815091_thumb.jpg

I will try and post the photo, but I have to scan it first.

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2010, 09:48:38 AM »
about black cloth colour

black dye is usually a very dark blueish/greenish or brownish.
So fading would go into dark blue petrol or dark brown, never to grey/anthracite - these are useful as highlights when painting
I sometimes use the said colours with a black "armour wash" or thinned down black wash

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2010, 09:01:33 PM »


These men were apparently  in a Petrograd food collecting detachment. Obviously sailors, but not wearing the usual hats.

The cockade appears to be some sort of anchor.

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Re: Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2010, 05:09:37 AM »
The Service cap was intended for boatswain and other senior NCO.
Also beside red sometimes served and former imperial sea officers.
The Anchor - or improvisation, or this sailors of the civil or river fleet (?).
St George bands carried only on Black sea and in Gvardeyskom (Guard) crew.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2010, 05:12:00 AM by cuprum »

 

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