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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #15 on: 13 April 2013, 09:28:33 PM »
Champion! This thread actually inspired me to do a bit of painting today - a couple of Watuta. It's been about two years since I posted any of my work on LAF, and I find painting and continuing to paint for any length of time a real struggle these days, so thanks, Belisarius.  :)
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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #16 on: 13 April 2013, 10:32:25 PM »
Cheers Mr. Plynkes ( where does the name come from ? ) I was enjoying your site last night my painting dos,ent stand comparison with yours I,m afraid. I was admiring your treatment of the fur effects you seem to get a very clean line which I like. I have four more warriors and three female archers left to paint and would be grateful for any suggestions or comments you care to make.

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #17 on: 15 April 2013, 12:35:40 PM »
I'm not very good at giving tips, as I'm not really very technically-minded and find it quite hard to express what I've done in simple phrases. I really like what you have done with the flesh, it works well (and nipples! I always forget to do nipples as no one ever seems to sculpt them on the lads, it is an odd blind-spot really).


The only way I have discovered to get clean lines is practice, practice, practice, and a determination to correct it every time you fuck it up (which sadly, is still a lot of the time with me). I'm rubbish at staying inside the lines (never was much of a one for colouring-in as a kid), so frequently I'll make a mistake, then go too far the other way when correcting that mistake, and end up having to correct the correction. This continues until I get it right or throw the figure across the room in frustration.


I do fur the way I do most things. Start quite dark and do several layers of highlights. There's no secret to it, and I don't really know any shortcuts that work for me. It's all done in a painstaking slow way. I have never managed to get good results with dry-brushing or "the dip" (or other similar methods). Those are skills I haven't been able to master so I do it the slow old-fashioned way. For patterned animal pelts I find that if you have a colour transition under the spots it really makes the whole thing look more real. Most spotted cats aren't a uniform colour under the spots, they usually are darker in the centre and get progressively lighter towards the extremities and underside. Hinting at this when doing loincloths and such can really bring them to life. I find using a wash of an orangy brown colour on the inner/upper part of such pieces helps no end with this, as well as going very light towards the edges.


This is the kind of thing I mean, on the straggly bits of spotted cat skins dangling from these guys...




It's really easy to do, but that little bit of extra effort makes a fair bit of difference in bringing the figure to life. For some reason I have found dark brown looks better than black spots, even when the spots on the real cat are black. Brown just looks better on a model.

You can do a similar thing on the loincloths, which were often made from wildcat skins in the case of the Ngoni...

Though it is a little harder to get the effect to show when the fur is sculpted thickly like this. The markings on some of these pelts seem to have been multiple short stripes in rows, but spots would do just as well.


The Ngoni were (like most East Africans) fond of red cloth almost to the point of obsession. So if like Jeff965 you find all these browns and blacks a bit  monotonous, you can liven things up no end with liberal amounts of bright red. Anything that looks like it could be made from tradecloth can be painted this way, from headbands to those waist-wrap things, and also the dangly strips...





Hope that gives you a few ideas. Look forward to seeing more of your guys soon.


As for "Plynkes" - years ago on the Miniatures Page my handle was "Polynikes" (taken from the name of a character in a novel about Spartans that I had enjoyed). One day a fellow poster, in some kind of langour of text-speak laziness, referred to me in an odd shortened version - Plynkes. I actually preferred it, and have used it ever since.  :)
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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #18 on: 15 April 2013, 07:43:08 PM »
WOW! Many thanks for such a generous and interesting reply , I,ve enjoyed re-reading it three times so far. This is exactly the type of feedback one looks for and which makes this forum so worthwhile. I submit " Three little maids  " for your delicatation. Gotta love these Copplestone Castings .

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #19 on: 15 April 2013, 07:45:12 PM »
Some more pics.

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #20 on: 17 April 2013, 04:09:18 PM »
Smashing. Skin tones are cool and I like the strings on the bows. I can never be bothered with doing that.  lol

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #21 on: 18 April 2013, 07:45:09 PM »
Sisal string teased out to one strand and glued into place - easy peasy . Just the four warriors to paint and the Copplestone  navel tars in sennet hats are next in line.

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #22 on: 18 April 2013, 08:03:51 PM »
I bet them chicks have got to be careful firing their bows, else they'll twang a hooter with the bow string..... ;)

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #23 on: 18 April 2013, 09:10:16 PM »
Lucky for them Africa is warm - in a cold spell things are liable to "crop up". Oh dear how did we descend into the gutter but as Oscar Wilde said " We are all lying in the gutter but some of us are looking up at the stars " or as my mate used to say  " looking up girl,s skirts " 

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #24 on: 25 April 2013, 07:28:48 PM »


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The Ngoni were (like most East Africans) fond of red cloth almost to the point of obsession. So if like Jeff965 you find all these browns and blacks a bit  monotonous, you can liven things up no end with liberal amounts of bright red. Anything that looks like it could be made from tradecloth can be painted this way, from headbands to those waist-wrap things, and also the dangly strips...

Hope that gives you a few ideas. Look forward to seeing more of your guys soon.

You c,ant ask a man for advice and not follow it up , I,ts rank bad form d,ont you know. Here is the first of the last four warriors if you follow my drift. My painting style is,nt as " clean" as Plynkes  I just c,ant seem to get there , I can only say I enjoy trying.

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #25 on: 26 April 2013, 08:02:38 PM »
2nd and 3rd figures - one more to finish.

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #26 on: 26 April 2013, 08:24:14 PM »
Love 'em. They're great. The little touches of red really bring them to life. These last two batches are definitely the best ones yet, and I'm not just saying that because adding the red was my idea.  :)

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #27 on: 26 April 2013, 08:41:01 PM »
The last figure in this post plus a few shots of them together. They have  been a pleasure to paint and I,ve enjoyed the feedback and advice from the members especially Plynkes, I,m hoping to see some more of his painting. I wonder which books could be recommended perhaps in the style of the old W..R.G. Armies and Enemies series. I have   " Central Africa" by Chris Peers. Since I,ve  typed this I,ve just read Plynkes  last post and want to thank him for the trouble he has taken and the generous nature of his replies, as I said I,ve  read and enjoyed all the posts which this set has prompted.

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #28 on: 27 April 2013, 05:16:05 AM »
They look great, would love to see the whole lot together.

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Re: Usuthto
« Reply #29 on: 27 April 2013, 02:08:39 PM »
Loving these, keep it up!!!