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Author Topic: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!  (Read 4992 times)

Offline meatpuppet7

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Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« on: April 23, 2013, 07:07:03 PM »
Hello everyone,

Longtime fan of skirmish gaming here (Necromunda, Mordheim, Spinespur, Infinity)
I have long wanted to expand the realm of my gaming to WWII, but have always been at a loss as to what rules set to use.
Does anybody know of or can recommend a rules set that is:
 28mm
 Resolves each persons actions separately (rather than as a group)
 Small scale with no more than a dozen or so men per a side
 Has rules for vehicles such as armored cars

Thank you all in advance, and sorry if this has all be brought up before,  my forum searching skill still leave much to be desired.
In hoc signo vinces

Offline Sirius

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 07:10:01 PM »
Operation Squad? (Vehicle rules are a separate supplement...)
Point Blank by Iron Ivan? (Not sure if vehicles are included?)
« Last Edit: April 23, 2013, 07:13:25 PM by Sirius »

Offline twrchtrwyth

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 07:13:45 PM »
Rules of Engagement usually involve a platoon on either side, but there is no reason why you couldn't play with just a squad and each squad as individuals and it has the vehicle rules you need.
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Offline Just John

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2013, 07:22:19 PM »
You could try out Bolt Action, which is a fun easy game to come to grips with.

If you want something a bit different then go to Two Hour Wargames site - they do a free introductory set called Chain Reaction 3, which is basic mechanics of their WW2 skirmish game NUTS!

Finally these also Victory Decision but I haven't played that. There may be a free basic version of that on RPGNow but I'm not 100% on that.

Offline Burnt65

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2013, 07:24:19 PM »
There was a rule set called Tactical Commander we played years ago.
Section per side with activation by individual figures
Rules for vehicles also
Not sure where you might find it now though
Keith

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Offline Solins

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2013, 08:29:18 PM »
I will say Operation Squad too.

I m used to play Victory decision, Disposable heroes, Rules of engagement and I have read Nuts, Kampfgruppe Normandy.

Operation squad is the only of them designed for small skirmish.
Is cheap and very effective, the supplements are really useless to my opinion.

Offline janner

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2013, 08:31:42 PM »
Another recommendation for Rules of Engagement  :)

Offline meatpuppet7

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2013, 11:14:07 PM »
Well it sounds like Operation Squad or Rules of Engagement are the ones to look at.
Out of curiosity, how are people liking Bolt Action?

Offline Just John

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2013, 11:23:08 PM »
I've enjoyed the few games I've played but it is probably more suited to a bit more than 12 or so per side. I think that there was an in depth review/AAR of Operation Squad in a fairly recent issue of WSS.

Offline grant

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2013, 12:28:12 AM »
I'll throw a vote in for Bolt Action and Rules of Engagement.
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Offline jp762

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2013, 01:03:35 AM »
Have to concurr with Grant. Rules of engagement and Bolt Action are firm favourates, over 25 plus years I have tried dozens of systems but these two offer me what I like in a wargame.
BA is a bit simpler but fun and fast paced. ROE allows for the more complex and involved games time permitting.
I like them anyway!
For what its worth.

Offline grant

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2013, 01:07:43 AM »
Have to concurr with Grant. Rules of engagement and Bolt Action are firm favourates, over 25 plus years I have tried dozens of systems but these two offer me what I like in a wargame.
BA is a bit simpler but fun and fast paced. ROE allows for the more complex and involved games time permitting.
I like them anyway!
For what its worth.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Good short summary of both!

Offline Schogun

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2013, 01:19:01 AM »
Normandy Firefight.

I haven't played it but it sounds interesting and fits your criteria.

One downside is that the rules require/recommend three figures for each combatant - one standing, one kneeling and one prone -- but you could easily use a marker to show this.

Reviews here:
http://zemjw.blogspot.com/2012/07/normandy-firefight-game-part-3.html

Available from Brigade Games in the US:
http://www.brigadegames.com/Normandy-Firefight-WW2-Wargames-Rules_p_3272.html

Other option is to wait for Chain of Command from TooFatLardies being released this summer. It looks great!

TFL has made 6 videos to introduce the game and mechanics. Part 1 is here:

Offline obsidian3d

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Re: Please help me find a rules set that is right for me!
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2013, 07:10:58 PM »
I own Flying Lead, which I'm planning to use to run some Stargate scenarios. It's quite a bit deeper than regular song of blades and would certainly work for WW2, and there are a few examples of US and German troops and tanks in there. I have been looking at getting Bolt Action as well. I haven't been able to find a copy locally to flip through though and so haven't been able to commit to the cost plus shipping. Bolt Action sounds like it's the best one if you want to play larger games (20+ figures).

Based on the feedback/reviews online I purchased Operation Squad and the vehicles supplement last night. The game *sounds* complicated with the declared action-reactions, but after watching a how-to-play video I really don't think it is. The size of game is smaller with Operation Squad than you'd get with Bolt Action, or Flying Lead (if you use the group activations rules). The other appeal that Operation Squad had for me, was the army lists. I don't know enough about WW2 to know what weapons or ranks should be included and the army lists are really helpful! They also have some downloadable ones for free. The only complaint I have is that the Reinforcements book doesn't seem to be available as a downloadable purchase.
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