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Offline Klingsor

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A Flooded City
« on: July 03, 2013, 10:39:20 AM »
I am toying with ideas for a skirmish table arranged as a flooded city. The basic table boards are simple, just water, with everything else placed on top of them.

The larger pieces will be things like more or less ruinous buildings, some leaning to make them more interesting though not to a degree where placing figures on them becomes impossible while others might have fallen but remained sufficiently intact that their outside wall is somewhere you can place figures while the damaged ends expose interior walls for more interest, having at least one toilet now at 90° to what it should be is almost mandatory. One building leaning against another would be nice as well but maybe not so useful.

I had initially thought a plane crashed into a building might be good until it was pointed out to me that it might be seen as being in poor taste though I was still thinking of Escape from New York and probably the Ro-Busters story in the long defunct Starlord where a rocked loaded with radioactive waste ended up stuck through a skyscraper. A 1/48th scale B-25 might be an interesting choice and I have a nasty suspicion I might have one in the stash.

Other things that it should have include:
Crude scrap and wood platforms, houses and jetties.
Boats, lots of boats, rafts and canoes. Rafts are easy enough (and there was a nice one shown here recently to copy) boats are trickier and canoes almost impossible as far as I can see.

Greenery should be everywhere. I considered a colder environment but it decided it would be less interesting and an ice age would (generally) reduce sea levels rather than increasing them.

Of course this is all just an idea at the moment and may be displaced by the next 'oh shiny' thing to come along but the idea has been percolating away for years, occasionally coming up for air before submerging again. Originally I think it was an idea for Necromunda.

Questions
How do I do a good water surface?
Does anyone know if anyone does a 28mm scale toilet?

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 11:20:57 AM »
I had a similar idea a while ago, but drifted off on a butterfly moment before it went anywhere... but there is a discussion thread on PA wargames chatting through some ideas, which may or may not prove useful:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/Post_Apoc_Wargames/topic/5089508/1/#new

As for the 28mm toilet - if I recall, Black cat Bases do one...
No idea on the water I'm afraid - If I ws going to make a fixed board, I'd just suggest lots of clear resin/varnish and actually partly submerge the scenery; but for something a bit more playble I'm left a bit stuck
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Offline AKULA

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2013, 11:27:24 AM »
Funny, have a similar idea on my todo list - must be something to do with living in a city that floods regularly...

 :D

the quick/cheap option is varnished base boards, but personally i was planning on using resin water (pricey though if you are doing a big board).  If you go down the latter, and use MDF make sure you seal the boards first otherwise you will get some warping....plus. Ventilate the room  ;)

Re: toilets...

http://www.modelshop.co.uk/Shop?searchText=Toilet

Have a look at LAFs very own 6mmPhils catalogue as he has some semi submerged cargo containers which I'll certainly be using when I get around to my own flooded table

http://slugindustries.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/slugindustriesjune2013web1.pdf

 ;)
« Last Edit: July 03, 2013, 11:35:20 AM by AKULA »

Offline Christian

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 11:29:57 AM »
MegaMinis has (used to have?) a great set of toilet figures including urinals... I like your idea, by the way!

Offline Klingsor

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2013, 11:53:24 AM »
I was just going to use painted and varnished MDF basebaords. I have dabbled briefly with the PVA like scenic water and found it traumatic enough that I am not going near the meltable or resin water products.

I think the basic idea of a flooded city is something lurking in the collective unconsciousness of us all. I am sure the list of comics and novels that use the idea would be very long indeed. Perhaps in some part it also explains the popularity of Venice as a tourist destination or as a setting for stories.

Offline Mason

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 12:17:53 PM »
Sounds like a great idea!
 8)

As for the interiors (including toilet!), try 1/48th scale dolls house stuff.
It is really cheap and works well as 'set dressing'.

http://www.mollys-house.co.uk/Furniture+PWNETXdBVE02a25jdmRXWjBGMlk

 ;)


Offline Michi

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2013, 12:21:35 PM »
I use a glossy transparent blue plastic shower curtain.

Offline mysteriousbill

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 04:36:20 PM »
I'm stealing the shower curtain idea.

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 04:56:27 PM »
Does anyone know if anyone does a 28mm scale toilet?

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Offline ink the troll

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 06:34:12 PM »
Pulp Figures have canoes:
http://pulpfigures.com/products/category/9

Fenris have a little rowing boat (and a reed boat):
http://www.fenrisgames.com/shop.html#!/~/search/keywords=boat&offset=0&sort=relevance

Amera have some vac formed boats, though I'm not sure how well they scale up to 28mm minis. The good thing a bout them is that one kit would give you a waterline model + a half sunken wreck if you use the off cut bit:
http://www.amera.co.uk/product.php?range=w

Scalescenes has some printable paper kits of narrow boats & a cargo ship, though you'll have to rescale them (too small otherwise):
http://scalescenes.com/townscenes

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Offline 6milPhil

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2013, 06:45:56 PM »

As Akula kindly pointed out I do make buried/submerged cargo conatiners. I can cast these shallow so figures can be safety stood on them. 



Details in the .pdf catalogue linked to above.

Offline ink the troll

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2013, 06:57:05 PM »
Another idea for transportation might be bicycle raft thingies.

Offline myincubliss

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2013, 07:26:37 PM »
Cool idea, made me think of this: http://www.terrainosaur.com/gallery/viewtopic.php?t=185

Turns out I'd remembered wrong and it was a fantasy project I was remembering, but might be interesting to look at nevertheless.

Offline ink the troll

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2013, 07:04:26 AM »
Some more water vehicle options here: http://ainstycastings.co.uk/index.php/cPath/48

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Re: A Flooded City
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2013, 07:17:56 AM »
if You are not adverse to a bit of converting, Playmobil has 3 sizes of wooden boats that You can buy as spare parts very cheaply and the plastic cuts/sands/glues perfectly


 

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