The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread

[Daeothar]

Elaborate, but not too over the top. Maybe it won't be too bad after all?

[Vanvlak]

Elaborate, but not too over the top. Maybe it won't be too bad after all?

I agree, certainly reminiscent of Oldhammer. I am curious about basing.

[Lost Egg]

I believe they have said it will be the same sizes as before and square. Of course they may change that.

Aside from the map, all we've seen so far is a bit of art and some renders...I wonder if they are keeping things close to their chest to do a really big reveal or if the project is just slowly chugging along...

[Aethelwulf]

Can anyone tell me why the GW lotr miniatures come pre-assembled, and in only a few poses?

[Lost Egg]

I think that was always the case. Maybe it was initially done to keep the cost down...or maybe because they are slightly smaller in scale?

[Aethelwulf]

That could be it, they are definitely smaller, which is another reason I dislike them as they don't fit with other manufacturers.

[zemjw]

I never understood that decision.

My memory of it is that it was a licensing thing, although it was probably more to try to make people buy more figures, rather than use their existing ones to dabble in Middle Earth

The weird thing is there wasn't that much of an overlap between the ranges, especially with humans (Empire had gone full high fantasy renaissance by that time), so it never made any sense to me. If you want to have skaven in Middle Earth, why not? The humans would have been much more useful in The Old World.

The only upshot for me was that it saved me a lot of money. I think I only ever bought a box of Rangers and the Warriors of the Dead, as there was no point buying stuff too small to use.

[Daeothar]

To be honest; this was exactly the reason I never bought any LotR miniatures; they looked so weeny next to 'proper' 28mm heroic miniatures.

As far as I understand it, the scale difference was done at the behest of the IP holders; they wanted to keep the LotR game completely separate from the other GW lines, probably to protect the nature of the setting and prevent it from being diluted/infiltrated by other universes and aesthetics. Also; the likeness of the actors from the movies were probably protected too, and representing them with different miniatures might also be unwanted.

Also; the WHFB was a world of tropes and often silliness, not at all compatible with the more realistic and serious world of LotR.

But GW had a stake in this too: if anyone had, for example, a grey wizard in their WHFB Empire army, he would be a perfect Gandalf stand-in. I mean; that whole concept and sculpt WAS inspired by Gandalf in the first place. Adn then think Wood Elf Waywatchers, Orcs and Goblins, Trolls, Dragons, Wraiths, Hobbits; the list goes on and on. All miniatures GW would have sold already for WHFB, and might not sell again should the lines have been compatible.

[Aethelwulf]

Its weird to think that when you get an Aragorn miniature, you're actually getting a miniature of Viggo Mortensen

[McMordain]

To be honest; this was exactly the reason I never bought any LotR miniatures; they looked so weeny next to 'proper' 28mm heroic miniatures.

Form me it is the exact opposite. 
I really like them because they are true scale 28 mm figures, with properly sized weapons and limbs.
Also as I'm aware they go well with 28 mm historical figures. A friend of mine uses plastic vikings as Dunlendings, and they don't seem to stand out at all.

[Daeothar]

Oh, that's absolutely true.

However; I had absolutely 0 historical miniatures in my collection at the time (and I still do only a very few), so there was that... 

[Aethelwulf]

They fit fairly well with historical miniatures, but I find they don't really look right together.

[Grumpy Gnome]

I found these two videos useful to learn more about the history of Lord of the Rings and Games Workshop, including why the sculpts are the size they are.

First an interview with Rick Priestly…



Second an interview with the Perry Brothers…

[Onebigriver]

Picked up issue 4 of Stormbringer today for the 4 paints.

Issue 6 has 10 "Hobgrot Slittaz" for £8.99 so that will be the next issue I pick up.

[Belligerentparrot]

Form me it is the exact opposite. 
I really like them because they are true scale 28 mm figures, with properly sized weapons and limbs.

Me too! I've bought a number of the LoTR range to convert to fit with old GW minis like the Confrontation gangers. Most oldhammer stuff looks too small next to modern GW.