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Offline Dr.Falkenhayn

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #315 on: January 17, 2014, 12:30:36 AM »
easy Boys,dropping Profits during a Company's reorganisation (closing down Stores,new WD,end of Failcast etc) is what?like absolutely normal?They'll be back,bigger than before,ready to take finally care of the Bitz/2nd Hand Market on Fleabay and all the 3rd Party Bloodsuckers  lol >:D >:D

i have very little Hopes for the Monthly supa dupa GWism Mag tbh.They're not going to show old skool oop Stuff or heavily converted Armies  :?
lots of Grimdark blah blah,silly Tech drawings on high Quality Paper,200 Shots of the same boring SM Army,Army Shots,close ups,Mass Battles,Apocalyptic Mass Battles,Apocalyptic Titanic pre Heresy Traitor Legion Mass Battle,the ususal GW nonsens  lol the G stands for Grotesque methinks  lol

Offline Vermis

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #316 on: January 17, 2014, 12:43:12 AM »
Well, like I said, there was six pages of the stuff and not all witless fanboy dribble. ;) Although...

They're still in the red

And I'm the pessimistic one? lol

Offline FramFramson

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #317 on: January 17, 2014, 12:48:33 AM »
Er, I meant black!  ;D

DURRRRRRR...


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Offline pixelgeek

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #318 on: January 17, 2014, 12:59:48 AM »
I mean, they got rid of Specialist Games so that's those money troubles sorted...

Specialist Games made money.

Offline Gibby

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #319 on: January 17, 2014, 07:01:22 AM »
Specialist Games made money.

Indeed. My post was particularly sarcastic  ;)

Offline Cubs

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #320 on: January 17, 2014, 09:06:37 AM »
The problem GW now have is that no-one trusts them. They have a much smaller customer base than they used to and none of the innovative hobby giants they used to rely on to come up with that next great idea. Their IP is not worth as much as it used to be either, after a succession of disappointing computer games.

They've flogged the family silver and alienated most of the people who migt have bought their products. They need really good ideas, but sadly have got rid of all the people who could have supplied them. They've always got an excuse as to why their lines keep going downwards - usually 'reorganisation'. A lot of companies go through extended periods of frantic 'reorganisation' before going under; it's just a standard response to a bad situation.

The Hobbit films were meant to be a blessed lifeline to keep them going, but it seems that isn't happening either.

I would like GW's value to dwindle to the point where someone who knows what they're doing can buy it out and run it properly. They need an entirely new business model because the one they have nuttured for the past couple of decades is all about short term gain and is now found wanting.
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Offline zemjw

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #321 on: January 17, 2014, 09:34:21 AM »
Part 8 o_o of Mastermini's dissection of GW's woes.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2014, 12:14:55 PM by zemjw »

Offline joroas

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #322 on: January 17, 2014, 10:44:03 AM »
Agreed, Scurv, but, like you, I have not bought any of their figures for years.  How many good customers have they priced out?
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Offline Modhail

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #323 on: January 17, 2014, 11:00:15 AM »
In GW's worldview? None. If price is an issue, you are not a good customer  ::)

Offline joroas

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #324 on: January 17, 2014, 12:58:54 PM »
I do the same with DVDs, £11 or £12 at first, but the price eventually rolls down to £3...........  :D

Granted, Australia is very expensive, as any Brit who has been there recently will agree, stuff doubles in price....  :-[

Offline Cubs

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #325 on: January 17, 2014, 01:52:31 PM »
thus i may not be representative of the average minis person (or maybe that is what most of us are like after all who knows.)


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Offline pixelgeek

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #326 on: January 17, 2014, 02:24:58 PM »
Agreed, Scurv, but, like you, I have not bought any of their figures for years.  How many good customers have they priced out?

Me for certain. I actually like the current 40K rules (prior to all the ridiculous expansions) but the price of an army is ridiculous. I was actually entertaining the idea of doing a Necron force but I looked at the prices and shelved the idea immediately. The same with the WFB Dark Elves. $70 Cdn for a box of ten figures is just not going to happen. Especially when I can get a box of plastic Bolt Action figs for half the price with twice the number of minis.

I won't even bother to compare it to the price of playing Pulp games like IHMN

Offline Argonor

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #327 on: January 17, 2014, 03:10:01 PM »
Beasts of War:
'January 17, 2014 in Featured, Warhammer 40K by warzan
So yesterday had an interesting development, in a sudden slide in the value of Games Workshop stock upon the announcement that they had a sizable drop in turnover and a hefty drop in profits.'

http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/games-workshop-thinking/

I do not agree with the conclusions, but maintain the view that over-prizing has finally influenced sales (as it should, according to economics theory). If existing customers were still willing to pay higher and higher prizes, turnover should follow price rises at an almost 1:1 basis, and even if they were willing to spend the same amount (buying less minis), turnover should stay almost stable.

Even with fewer online retailers, there are sufficient sources for buying GW-stuff, so the whole online-retailer-dispute is not enough to explain such a drop in sales. Price simply exceeds perceived value of their goods, making more ppl think more than twice before investing their money in it.
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #328 on: January 17, 2014, 03:32:35 PM »
I have sold off every book, mini, piece of terrain - I started in early 2nd edition, and had the collection to go with that time. It took me nearly three years just to sell all my stuff. Lord of the Rings was the last thing to go.

The Hobbit was just such a disaster. I used to play at a store that was the number one LOTR club in all of North America, as confirmed by GW itself. We had LOTR tournaments that rivalled the UK in size. War of the Ring (a blatant attempt to up-size LOTR) killed LOTR. The Hobbit could have revived that entry market, tied in with the films. Nope. A massive, insane price rise, followed by a predictable dearth of sales was what happened. So poor was the result that the latest film didn't get a boxed set - GW has even given up on the franchise.

I believe that the company is being prepared for the slaughter. Tom Kirby has his parachute on, and is waiting for the green light. Who cares what happens to the company? He is old enough that retirement is what's important. A massive buyout is just the thing for him. A slight downturn in stock price? Irrelevant when he is a restricted owner anyway. The sale of GW is what he needs to leave the company.

So long Games Workshop. I hope Hasbro, or whoever picks you up, is humane when they butcher you for the tenderest parts.
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Offline joroas

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #329 on: January 17, 2014, 03:36:36 PM »
I only have my Dwarves left, outside the specialist games.  I cleared out much of my stuff in the last few months.  Like you I was tempted by The Hobbit, but recoiled in horror at the prices.........

 

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