The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread

[TWD]

Why do the Eldar, an ancient race facing slow extinction yet wise beyond human understanding, give Guardians, their citizen militia who are generally meant to stay at a safe-ish distance from the battle and provide covering fire for the Aspect Warriors, guns with range so pathetic that the pistols of other races laugh about it?

Farseers did it.

That's enough questions

[Storm Wolf]

Why do the Eldar, an ancient race facing slow extinction yet wise beyond human understanding, give Guardians, their citizen militia who are generally meant to stay at a safe-ish distance from the battle and provide covering fire for the Aspect Warriors, guns with range so pathetic that the pistols of other races laugh about it?

They became the Tau

Honestly though, i agree completely at least 24 inches was ok but 12". Just to be clear thats shuriken catapults i am talking about

Glen

[AWu]

Dying race fielding citizen militia instead of undeadish constructs or robots bother me from the first time I meet eldar in WD 127.
I was drawn to them because of Jess Goodwin beautiful sculpts but the incompatibility of fluff and game play was strange...

[Belligerentparrot]

As someone who mostly played 2nd ed Space Marine (Epic scale - couldn't stand 40k rules in comparison), the Eldar made more sense. The Eldar army in Space Marine had man-for-man the best elite units (e.g. no other troop stand could reliably beat a Striking Scorpion or Exarch stand in c/c), but you could never field those units in numbers. You needed Guardians to bulk out your force in any sizeable game (and they were really crap, though at least had 50cm range and usually came with Falcons).

It gave you a sense of the dying race thing: exceptional elites/weaponry, but because the race was dying they could never field their good stuff in sufficient numbers. The citizens were thrown in to fight too, because everyone had to - no one could be left at home in large battles.

That said, when the Eldar won it was never the Guardians who carried the day. You set them up defending artillery/tanks, while your Scorpions, Exarchs, Wave Serpents, and Titans did all the killing.

[FionaWhite]

Farseers did it.

That's enough questions

Always knew there was something about them.

They became the Tau

Honestly though, i agree completely at least 24 inches was ok but 12". Just to be clear thats shuriken catapults i am talking about

Glen

Yup, shuriken catapults. 
Lasblasters would've worked out wayyyyy better.

[AWu]

As someone who mostly played 2nd ed Space Marine (Epic scale - couldn't stand 40k rules in comparison), the Eldar made more sense. The Eldar army in Space Marine had man-for-man the best elite units (e.g. no other troop stand could reliably beat a Striking Scorpion or Exarch stand in c/c), but you could never field those units in numbers. You needed Guardians to bulk out your force in any sizeable game (and they were really crap, though at least had 50cm range and usually came with Falcons).

It gave you a sense of the dying race thing: exceptional elites/weaponry, but because the race was dying they could never field their good stuff in sufficient numbers. The citizens were thrown in to fight too, because everyone had to - no one could be left at home in large battles.

That said, when the Eldar won it was never the Guardians who carried the day. You set them up defending artillery/tanks, while your Scorpions, Exarchs, Wave Serpents, and Titans did all the killing.

In Epic Armageddon you can use sensible army without guardians at all

[Belligerentparrot]

In Epic Armageddon you can use sensible army without guardians at all

One more reason why 2nd ed Space Marine was the best Epic game 
(Until Titan Legions and the 'Nids expansion ruined it completely).

[AWu]

That was my entry point into GW gaming, but Armageddon is just superior set of rules

[Belligerentparrot]

That was my entry point into GW gaming, but Armageddon is just superior set of rules

Yeah, I would agree on the rules front actually. Still prefer Space Marine 2nd though, thanks to the way all six original armies are so well balanced. Plus I just like army cards and order tokens. My entry point into GW gaming too, after Space Crusade.

[AWu]

I am not counting The Talisman because polish edition lacked miniatures :>

[AWu]

Cool video in itself but Fiend is amazing   
And they went into number of boobs not size 

[FramFramson]

Oh that's too good. 

Also, that looks like a neat and nightmarish direction for the Slaanesh to go in.

[waitwhat]

Yeah, I would agree on the rules front actually. Still prefer Space Marine 2nd though, thanks to the way all six original armies are so well balanced. Plus I just like army cards and order tokens. My entry point into GW gaming too, after Space Crusade.

1000x this

[grant]

Oh that's too good. 

Also, that looks like a neat and nightmarish direction for the Slaanesh to go in.

Does look good.

[AWu]

And have you seen this ? Might be best part of the Orktober

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9_rqvdJplo&feature=youtu.be