The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread

[Cubs]

I mean, I said that from the get-go. They're just a sort of glaze/paint mix.

Then I cannot but agree with you sir. It looks like paint with a glaze agent added.

[beefcake]

So if these are just basically regular glazes, what are the best glazes from other companies around? I'm interested.

[Chico]

The new paints to me look like a combination of the AP Dip and the old ink/white undercoat method. Be interesting to see the White paint (Not the Undercoat mind) for the series as I'm always trying out easy white methods.

[Storm Wolf]

I suspect that i will be sticking with variations on the army painter dip etc methods

[Coenus Scaldingus]

I... quite like that chibi Sister of Battle.
Not sure I could see myself purchasing one, but the fact that it's not a definite no is something I'll have to take some time to process.

[Ultravanillasmurf]

I... quite like that chibi Sister of Battle.
Not sure I could see myself purchasing one, but the fact that it's not a definite no is something I'll have to take some time to process.

I wonder how they scale with Raging Annie (and does the womble have no chapter marks)?

[pixelgeek]

So if these are just basically regular glazes...

They are not. They require a specific primer so there is some interaction between the paint and the primer to create the effect. They appear to work like a glaze but the fact that the main tone of the paint is still visible on the model and that it pools more than a glaze would make me think that it is some hybrid.

[Chico]

They require a specific primer

Well they say you need their new primer but honestly just how true that is remains to be seen, they also say you need to use citadel branded clippers and glue when making there stuff so I'll take it with a pinch of salt for the moment *Shrugs*.

[pixelgeek]

Well they say you need their new primer but honestly just how true that is remains to be seen

Why would they develop a line of primers for these paints if they weren’t required? They already sell spray that they sell as primers so what reason would they have to sink time and money into developing new primer if they didn’t have to?

[Chico]

Why would they develop a line of primers for these paints if they weren’t required? They already sell spray that they sell as primers so what reason would they have to sink time and money into developing new primer if they didn’t have to?

Because they are a company that wants to make money first and foremost. If they say you need such and such alot of people will just say Ok and buy it without thinking twice even if it may cost more than other cheaper or sometimes better options.

So yes until it's released and people just get to play around and have a good ol' test we don't honestly know if it's really needed or just the ''recommended'' option.

[Jagannath]

Suspect the primer is fairly low tooth, if not very smooth. I use Harold grey primer on terrain which has a lot of tooth and washed etc. can be difficult on it. Probably to avoid that.

[Malebolgia]

The contrast primer seems like a great product for the first basecoats over white. Spray white, add contrast and then you're set for fast shading and highlighting. Seems excellent for fast but good looking paintjobs.
And yes you can make the stuff yourself, but I don't care for that...I'm way too lazy . I want a simple and good product from a pot that is consistent. It's the main reason I love the old GW/AP washes. You can speed up your painting a lot and they are great for quick good blends. So I'll probably buy all of them!
And sure they work fine over white. No need to buy super expensive coloured primers. White is the way to go.

[mcfonz]

Because they are a company that wants to make money first and foremost. If they say you need such and such alot of people will just say Ok and buy it without thinking twice even if it may cost more than other cheaper or sometimes better options.

So yes until it's released and people just get to play around and have a good ol' test we don't honestly know if it's really needed or just the ''recommended'' option.

This.

I suspect that some spray primers for cars would work fine. The proof will be in the pudding but the cynical side of me agrees with Chico on this one.

[Daeothar]

Yes; this has happened so many times already. Think Kneadatite, which was then marketed (first) by GW as Green Stuff at a mark-up that would leave any eighties Wallstreet broker in tears of envy. then there was Future Floor Polish, which found its way into the original Armypainter dip. Or Oyumaru, sold to unsuspecting miniature gamers as  Instamould at dozens of times its original price.

So I take it this will be no different. We'll just have to wait until somebody finds out the origin of the product, and it can be bought in bulk at a fraction of the price...

[JamesValentine]

Why would they develop a line of primers for these paints if they weren’t required?

I remember when I was this innocent and trusting...