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Offline Modhail

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #210 on: November 19, 2013, 08:41:16 AM »
Now that I know the prices of the new plastic clamshell (single pose) Space Marine Commander and Librarian, GW's switch from Finecast to all plastic doesn't seem like such good news anymore...  :?

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #211 on: November 19, 2013, 10:32:47 AM »
Now that I know the prices of the new plastic clamshell (single pose) Space Marine Commander and Librarian, GW's switch from Finecast to all plastic doesn't seem like such good news anymore...  :?

What, the prices didn't decrease? ???

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #212 on: November 19, 2013, 09:18:39 PM »
That mono-pose commander is more expensive than the multi-part commander box set (which I think is still available). And there's tons of extra bits on the old ones sprue. Jump packs, cloaks, heads, weapons etc. Much better value if anyone is thinking of buying the new one.
Also just checked. £18 for mono-pose. £14 for multi-part kit.  ???

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #213 on: November 19, 2013, 10:08:33 PM »
I have little reason to care about the coming or going of finecast as it's not my problem, but I still think this pic manages to summarise a point oh-so-eloquently...

*snip*

 lol

I'm like Scurv on the current Reaper bones topic: I have a couple of finecast minis and they seem fine. Flash not much worse than some plastic or metal minis I've seen. Minimum, barely noticeable bubbles. Mind you, I have seen and heard plenty of horror stories too; and I haven't had to buy scads of it for units and army-building, or set it out on a game table or a warm windowsill...

I'm another one under the impression it was a stopgap too. It came after a period of hearing smaller manufacturers complain about how the price of tin was skyrocketing, and it seemed they were slowly grinding towards all-plastic anyway. The cost of tin probably gave them a kick in the pants to hurry it along, and it looks like finecast gave them another one. :D

That mono-pose commander is more expensive than the multi-part commander box set (which I think is still available).
Also just checked. £18 for mono-pose. £14 for multi-part kit.  ???

Back when Epic was still a thing, a mate was checking out the price of a few things. He found out that if you wanted the sprues of strip bases, it was cheaper to buy a box of epic orks, keep the bases, and throw the orks away.

In other words, the way of the Games Workshop is like the coming of blood from the stone.

Bleedin' mystery.

Scurv: some of their new dark elf stuff (first all-plastic army! For fantasy anyway) isn't too bad... until you see the price tag, obviously.
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #214 on: November 19, 2013, 10:44:47 PM »
I have enough minis for a proper night goblin army.  It'll never get painted, but I have it in boxes under my desk.  I do have to say, I was thrilled to get the old Marauder Giant for $30.00 brand new in the box.  i remember looking at this in issues of Dragon when I was a kid.  That will be a nice addition for my soon-to-be Otherworld Skirmish game....

But GW, we're done with each other.  Yeah, I'll buy a pot paint on sale here and there, but no new minis.  The few times I go into my local GW shop, there's not much here in Amsterdam, they dont even hassle me to play their games.
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #215 on: November 21, 2013, 12:30:25 AM »
have they actually put out any decent stuff recently? Last time I bothered to look it was those driller killer marine things.

The new Dark Elf cavalry box has some potential.


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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #216 on: November 21, 2013, 07:09:39 PM »
They've priced me out really, and the design of their main games has gone a bit too cartoony/World of Warcrafty for me. Doesn't evoke the fluff at all. The big monsters are like something from a Saturday morning cartoon. In a bad way.

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #217 on: November 22, 2013, 03:19:52 AM »
Ignoring the price of any GW stuff because we all know its ridiculous I quite like the look of the dark elves, not all of them but the medusa looks cool. I remember having the old one from the nightmare set. For some silly reason I chopped the hands off. Still have it knocking around though. Maybe it might be time to convert it with a bow and arrows.


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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #218 on: November 30, 2013, 07:46:34 PM »
I've just picked up the skaven from Island of Blood, and 92 goblins from the Hobbit to use as skaven slaves.  Ebay, I know, but I got the lot (140 models) for £50.

The skaven models from the starter box are great - doubly so considering they're mostly two-part models.  Hardly any mouldlines, and tons of wonderful detail - there are rats scurrying all over the models, sitting on their heads and hiding under their robes.

The goblins are heartbreakingly lovely.  Nicely detailed, I actually felt sorry for the poor, deformed wee mites as I painted them up.  All single-piece minis, almost no mouldlines, 18 different poses.  They would be great for a tribe of post-apoc/sci-fi mutants, ghouls or cavern-dwellers.

Sad, because they're about the last thing I'd look at if I was buying high-fantasy goblins, and it ain't even GW's fault.

I also really like their new paints - the base colours are just fantastic, with great coverage and they're in a good range of bright colours.  Even the pot of drybrush paste I tried last week worked well.

'Course, we're looking to play another ruleset with the figures, because the Warhammer rulebook and army book for them would cost more than the figures...

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #219 on: November 30, 2013, 07:50:48 PM »
£15 for one figure  lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #220 on: November 30, 2013, 10:14:30 PM »
I've just picked up the skaven from Island of Blood, and 92 goblins from the Hobbit to use as skaven slaves.  Ebay, I know, but I got the lot (140 models) for £50.

The skaven models from the starter box are great - doubly so considering they're mostly two-part models.  Hardly any mouldlines, and tons of wonderful detail - there are rats scurrying all over the models, sitting on their heads and hiding under their robes.

Nice, aren't they? :) I'd get more meself, but I'm trying to scavenge some from the regular set, so's I can leave shields off for slaves. But nice idea with the Hobbit gobbos. I am looking for some mutated-looking slaves, too.

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'Course, we're looking to play another ruleset with the figures, because the Warhammer rulebook and army book for them would cost more than the figures...

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£15 for one figure  lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

Forty quid for a bunch of heads in little bits of barrels!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #221 on: December 01, 2013, 12:37:25 AM »
Talking of expensive single miniatures... The other day I came across some nice Citade Mercenary Militia on ebay. Was wondering if it was worth bidding 3 quid each for them. In the end i saw that LAM is actually selling something quite similar with higher quality scupts so I didnt bother.
Checked back today and in fact two of the Militiamen had sold for 72 pounds each. The most overpriced minis I have ever seen. So it seems second hand GW stuff can be even more crazy prices than the new stuff.



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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #222 on: December 01, 2013, 12:57:10 AM »
There wouldn't be a particular oldschool revival artificially inflating prices, would there...?

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #223 on: December 01, 2013, 01:21:48 AM »
Apparently.

Personally I am all for oldschool revival in terms of WHFB early editions and such like. But when it comes to the minis, I would go for a mix and match approach. There are some great "old school" style models that can be found from various companies, which are still in production and often sell for 1 or 2 euros a mini. It helps keep those companies going, not overinflating the prices, and you can play old warhammer to your hearts content. Everyone is a winner.

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #224 on: December 01, 2013, 03:15:23 AM »

Checked back today and in fact two of the Militiamen had sold for 72 pounds each. The most overpriced minis I have ever seen. So it seems second hand GW stuff can be even more crazy prices than the new stuff.

That is obscene!

I will be getting the Desolation book, I am a LOTR/Hobbit fan, but simply can't afford their minis anymore. On top of that, GW charges a 2:1 exchange rate for Canadian stuff. That's faaaaaar out of touch of real exchange. Sad.

A friend game me 24 Mordor Orcs today, I have a smallish army on the go. That lot would have cost me the same as an entire Bolt Action army!!! Luckily he got them cheaply on ebay.

GW has now relegated LOTR/The Hobbit to Specialist Games status, so it's near death. The lack of a starter box for Desolation is a sign of how dire things are. GW is actually pricing themselves to death. Shame they don't realize the solution is to offer better value again, not less choice by killing lines.
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