Manchu army uniforms of 19th century

[KraVseR]

Hello!
Plese, help me find any information about Manchu army uniforms of19th century.

[HerbyF]

There are a couple of Osprey books for this period. The Boxer Rebellion & The Taipai Rebellion. Both books cover a little bit of Imperial Chinese uniforms. Often the only thing that was uniform in many units was the jacket. Every day civillian cloths were worn undernieth. The jacket would have been the same color in each unit, each unit would have their own jacket color & trim. Individual identification would be on a round white patch in the center of the front & back of their jacket.

[KraVseR]

Yes, thank you, I've seen these books. Is there something else?

[sakura11]

i ahve ian heaths book on this on ebay
it is the best reference
ninteenth century cninese armies
cheers

[KraVseR]

Maybe someone can post image with examples of uniform?

[former user]

if I may quote the forum rules:

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[KraVseR]

if I may quote the forum rules:

"2.1 Copyrighted material.

Since the forum owner can be legally held responsible for copyright violations, you may NOT, under any circumstance, post, promote or request illegal copies of copyrighted material of any kind, including but not limited to scanned/digitized versions of rulebooks, magazines and software as well as unauthorized copies of digital products sold by their respective copyright holders.

This also includes links to P2P and other download sites. Posts violating these rules will be deleted without prior notice."

In these topic too?
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=55683.msg660450#msg660450

[former user]

point taken
I guess old photographs are a bit different, as well as old drawings, especially in terms of "fair use"

I personally try not to post recent genuine artwork made for recent publications (like Osprey e.g.) unless they published it for advertising themselves.
And I only link to such pictures.
I probably cannot claim to be rigorous enough on that matter, as others here probably neither, however asking for artwork from a copyrighted recent publication might be a bit over the top and can hardly expect a response - which is actually what I wanted to hint at when quoting the forum rules, and not to criticize...

the path between copyright and fair use is narrow and thorny, I am aware of that   

[KraVseR]

I think that there are old pictures with the Chinese soldiers of the 19th century. to which copyright does not apply. I want them to see.
And illustrations of Osprey available in preview Google and Amazon.

[former user]

but maybe these can be of help too?




and this link
http://www.kunstkamera.ru/en/museum_exhibitions/encyclopedia/china/traditional_mode_of_life/clothes/clothes_in_feodal_china/

[KraVseR]

Yes, thanks.

[KraVseR]

Maybe someone has the details on the organization of the Manchu army?

[former user]

http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?itemid=57

http://www.republicanchina.org/Manchu-New-Army-New-Adm.pdf

https://www.google.de/search?q=Manchu+army+TOE&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&client=firefox-a&channel=np&source=hp&gws_rd=cr&ei=PyUbUp3sLsbcsgapu4C4Bw

sorry, I cannot comment on anything myself, since I am totally ignorant on the topic and also not interested at all