White Russians 1918

[Khmorg]

I it painted

[trev]

Lovely work.  They look even better painted.

[carlos marighela]

Those look great. 

Currently painting some of your lovely Nicholas I era infantry. Now we just need to convince you to do some 1950s/60s Red Army.

[Khmorg]

Lovely work.  They look even better painted.

Thanks!

[Khmorg]

Those look great. 

Currently painting some of your lovely Nicholas I era infantry. Now we just need to convince you to do some 1950s/60s Red Army.

Thank you for your attention to this project.

The Red Army did not conduct military operations in the 50-60s.
If I make these figures, I will probably be the only one in all of Russia who will have them 
 
The plans are for 1807, after the completion of the project “Russia in the 17th century”. Perhaps I’ll make a Red Army for 1918.
I have a lot of ideas....
As they say - ideas like a botanist in the jungle

[carlos marighela]

Oh but they did....

Fraternal assitance to East Germany in 1953, suppressing revanchist elements and guiding them back on the true path.

Fraternal assistance to Hungary in 1956, suppressing revanchist elements and guiding them back on to the true path.

Fraternal assistance to Czechoslovakia in1968, suppressing revanchist elements and guiding them back on to the true path.

Not so fraternal assistance to deviationist former brother China whose adherence to a cult of personality lead them into the arms of imperialism and the coveting of the rightful territory of the USSR.

Plenty to work with but I mostly want them to fight a fictional war with the West over Berlin in 1961 and maybe Cuba in 1962.

 

[Khmorg]

Oh but they did....

Fraternal assitance to East Germany in 1953, suppressing revanchist elements and guiding them back on the true path.

Fraternal assistance to Hungary in 1956, suppressing revanchist elements and guiding them back on to the true path.

Fraternal assistance to Czechoslovakia in1968, suppressing revanchist elements and guiding them back on to the true path.

Not so fraternal assistance to deviationist former brother China whose adherence to a cult of personality lead them into the arms of imperialism and the coveting of the rightful territory of the USSR.

Plenty to work with but I mostly want them to fight a fictional war with the West over Berlin in 1961 and maybe Cuba in 1962.

 

In the 50-60s, for the Soviet army these were not military operations in the full sense of the word. Rather, it was Horatio Nelson’s principle (the presence of a combat fleet is already a political argument)

The fact is that from 1946 to 1968 the uniform changed. (at least replace the stars on hats with cockades).
If the incredible happened, ...then...in Cuba it would be a tropical uniform, and in Western Europe it would be a different uniform...sometimes, alas, with a radioactive protection kit....

I have some posters about building an armored vehicle landing party and so on.... But you need a specific time (year)...

I don't promise that I will take on this project. But I will think about it

[carlos marighela]

As I understand it, the M43 gymnastyorka, with virtually alterations was worn right through to the changeover to the M69 tunic around the 1970s mark. Same thing with wartime sharovary and the pilotka sidecap. For the most part, Soviet troops on the streets of Prague in 1968, look functionally identical to those of 1945, save for their weapons and equipment. In 28mm any difference between the Ssh-40 and Ssh 60 steel helmet is invisble.

To be honest I'm not quite sure what uniform items the Soviet contingent in Cuba would have worn in 1962. Initially they were sent in civilian atture to conform to the cover story that they were agricultural advisors. That said, given the M43 uniform with the addition of the panamka hat was worn in the hotter parts of the Soviet Union I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't do the same there. Of course, it may well be that they used a specific uniform, maybe Cuban supplied but I'm unaware of anything specifically ' tropical until the adoption of the 'Mobuta' uniform but that's somewhat later IIRC.

My principal interest would be for a 1960s era force, equipped with AKMs, RPDs and RPG-2 and/ or RPG-7. That way they could see use in the 1956 Hungarian revolt, the invasion of Czechoslovakia, my fictional 1961 Berlin conflict and still get potential use against the Chinese in August 1969 (the skirmishes on the Western Chinese border, not the winter battle at the Ussuri river). Of course troops in greatcoats would be equally if not more flexible in terms of time period.

My pipedream, I'm not expecting you to take it up. Of course if you did, I'd be a a happy man. 

[Khmorg]

I am interested!!!!

I became interested in this issue.
Although even if I make the figures, the problem will be to send them by mail (the rules of the mail have changed)

Here's the difference between the 1945 and 1960 uniforms
Industry began to develop new materials and the shape changed.

[carlos marighela]

The field uniform for most troops didn't change until 1969. VDV had their own uniform variants introduced earlier.

Wiki provides a decent summary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/73_Uniform

Photos of Soviet troops in Prague 1968. As you can see they are wearing the M43 uniform.

[Khmorg]

In 1968 in Prague there was a completely different uniform....




I have a question about scale.
Do you prefer Perry plastic, Perry metal or Copplestone scale figures?

[Rogerc]

Dont let him distract you!!!!!

Russian Civil War is your way forward.

[Khmorg]

 

[carlos marighela]

In 1968 in Prague there was a completely different uniform....




I have a question about scale.
Do you prefer Perry plastic, Perry metal or Copplestone scale figures?

There's a reason for that. Those are VDV paratroopers wearing the standard parachutist one-piece overalls. The paratroopers were the first into Prague, seizing the airport and a lot of the photos show them, generally riding on ASU-57 and ASU-85 assault guns.  BMDs weren't a thing back then.

Look closely and you can see they are carrying AKMS folding stock rifles. There are other photos of Prague that show the VDV wearing the short lived red beret that was used before the more well known cornflower blue version.

If I had a preference for figur sizes it would be to match the Empress moderns range, which are somewhat taller. That said your existing Crimean range seems to be around the right height. Definitely not Perry plastic WW2 which are tiny. I understand that the average Soviet motor rifleman tended to be a bit shorter on the whole.

Apolgies for the thread derail.