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Author Topic: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?  (Read 7360 times)

Offline CPT Shanks

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2008, 08:31:56 PM »
Heart of Africa is what saved my gaming soul and broke me from the grip of GW style gaming. Having never played CLA I cannot comment, but HOA nothing but praise.
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Offline Gallowglass

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2008, 11:03:07 PM »
It's been a while, but IIRC CLA was pretty straightforward.

I would agree that Mr. Peers' games benefit hugely from a playsheet, though. Improves an otherwise good game considerably.

I like his modern and WW2 sets, "At Close Quarters" and "A Corner of Hell" - they run on the same "engine". I do find something in the morale rules a little bit funky, though. I haven't figured out whether that's because I've misinterpreted something, or because the rule itself is a little dodgy.

On the whole, good rules, but definitely recommend playing them only with friends and non-rule barristers.
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Offline brigadegames

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2009, 04:27:15 AM »
I can say that one of the things Rich (Rattrap) and I are working on are revisions that reorganize the material in the book and to provide quick reference sheets.

CLA will be one of the first revisions released.

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Offline Doc Twilight

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2009, 05:23:25 AM »
I think the writing and organization leaves a great deal to be desired (then again, so do most). Chris is a nice guy, but he's not usually willing to provide much support for the game online, and he seems to lose interest in one project and move on to another, sort of leaving some games "in the lurch", as it were. Not an attack on Chris, who's a perfectly pleasant guy, just an observation.

The games are playable, but yes, it frequently does help to have someone who knows the system to walk you through them.

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2009, 08:19:43 AM »
as with with most writing that is about the content (instruction manuals, specialized books, scientific papers), the authors are good about what they write, and many do not have the talent to write

in our hobby, companies can't afford wordsmiths to edit their paperwork - I guess we have to live with it (I think there is no need to mention a certain market leader who actually could afford, but doesn't )

it is only good luck if one has a good friend who is talented with that and takes the time to read over it

Offline Mike D. Mc Brice

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2009, 05:18:07 PM »
If you run into a question during a game it's pretty hard to find an answer in the rules, i.e. there are some shooting rules in the movement section, in the section on equipment and so on.
A Quick reference sheet and an INDEX would be great!

It would also be great if any rules regarding one subject could be found completely in one section, even if it means to have them several times in different sections.


Offline Operator5

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2009, 06:28:40 PM »
Getting things organized is one of the things I am working on. There will be quick reference sheets added to all the books at some point. Now if only I could find an assistant willing to work for free...  ;D
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Offline twrchtrwyth

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2009, 11:45:05 PM »
Will you make the quick reference sheet avaialble for download?
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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2009, 01:14:37 AM »
Will you make the quick reference sheet avaialble for download?

That is MY plan. I just need to convince the partner of the benefit of it. :)

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2009, 01:16:10 AM »
What are the objections?

Offline Mike D. Mc Brice

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2009, 08:15:10 AM »
Many of the yahoo groups of the games already have Quick Reference Sheets in the files sections. These might be a good basis.

Operator5, do you have plans to change any rules or just reorganise them?

I hope to play some future wars scenarios soon :)

Offline Dan

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2009, 08:37:09 AM »
A small group of us used the CLA rules which we found very enjoyable , I cannot remember having any issues understanding them.
I'm working my way through Future Wars right now and like the style .
An update would be good though. ;)

Offline Operator5

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2009, 01:14:50 PM »
Many of the yahoo groups of the games already have Quick Reference Sheets in the files sections. These might be a good basis.

Operator5, do you have plans to change any rules or just reorganise them?

I hope to play some future wars scenarios soon :)

I would say 90% reorganize, 9% clarify (more examples), and 1% potentially change. At first only the 90% is going to be done and that is all I am working on at the moment. I need to get a few games under my belt before I can really look at the remaining 10%.

As for objections, There is some discussion over things being given away for free. Personally, things like a QRS are a good aid for players to get free. But like people who refuse to consider selling PDFs, some people believe that giving away a QRS will mean that fewer players will buy the rules. I don't think I have ever had that problem with anything of mine that I sell, but I can't say for sure that people buy 1 set of rules and everyone else buys the QRS.


Offline twrchtrwyth

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2009, 06:33:12 PM »
I have all your .45 Adventure stuff, because you give away a lot of free stuff.

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Re: Are CLA and In The Heart Of Africa difficult to understand?
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2009, 07:09:13 PM »
I know a lot of people do. They want to see the company supporting them if they are going to support the company. So, believe me when I say I am on your side in this issue and will push for it. However, it's not entirely in my control to just offer free stuff for these rules. I'll do my best though, that I promise. :)

 

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