Shadow of Waterloo

[Ahistorian]

How long after Waterloo would you all say that the shadow of the Napoleonic Wars extended, in terms of similar conflicts? I know Napoleonic tactics were attempted in the ACW/Crimea/FPW war, but in terms of materiel AS WELL as mindset, what would you class as Napoleonic-style conflicts?

For me I suppose it would require widespread muskets (and few rifles) - so pre-Minié? 1815-45? What do you adventurers consider to still be in the Napoleonic fold?

[gringo]

for the French i would say the mentality and elan carried on until
early in the first world war!!

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[former user]

ACW and 1871 against the prussians, Minie balls or not.

rifled sidearms developed the true potential only with metal cartridges and bolt action breeches
another aspect is of course the artillery, and here breech loaders and quickfirers took some time too (de Bange obturator)

so as long as the firing range or the firing rate did not increase substantially, and the size of the armies was not reduced (mass-levy) like with the mainland European armies or in the Americas, we can regard this as the napoleonic shadow, I guess.....

[julesav]

I think there's a change somewhere between 1st and 2nd Schleswig - Holstein Wars just post Crimea. Most of the earlier european wars are fought in Napoleonic style, sometimes with the 'new' rifled muskets but still in the old style. Whereas 2nd S-H, Austro-Prussian, Franco-Prussian etc are more skirmish order wars for the front line foot at least.

[Elk101]

It might be a push, but it could also be said that without the Napoleonic Wars and the 1812 campaign in particular, the Russian Revolution may have not happened till much later . Zamoyski makes some good points about this in '1812 Napoleon's Fatal March on Moscow'.

[former user]

is this what You mean by skirmish style?

Sedan 1870

Königgrätz 1866

Plevna 1877