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Author Topic: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS  (Read 14476 times)

Offline argsilverson

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2008, 11:23:47 AM »
Again: Thanks for the marvellous report and the excellent photos.

I can recognise most of the figures but I have one question:

Who is the manufacturer of the Prussian MG with those pickelhaube crew ?
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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2008, 12:15:02 PM »
Renegade miniatures,  There early war ww1 Germans.   If you jump in quick renegade actually have a special offer on until the end of the month.  So its a great time to lay your hands on them.
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Offline argsilverson

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2008, 12:20:47 PM »
Thank you very much

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2008, 01:02:03 PM »
Yes PLEASE, Info like this is a great help to all, and it gives you new ideas on a theme. The rust effect, was that done with the 2 part product ( don't know what it is called, but was shown it at the local model railway shop). The one I saw is painted with the first coat then the second coat reacts with the first to give the rust, Gotta get some.
  Modellers are always storing bits of info away into dusty corners of their minds waiting for them to jump out at the relevent moment,  well I do lol.


Hi Fritzy and all,

Yes, you're right about the 2 part product. The one I used was available over here in Australia at the local hardware store in their craft section, so try Wickes or B&Q superstores over there. The brand was 'Chatsworth' that I used. You can get either a rust base effect or copper base effect. The activator is basically the same, so depending on whether you want rust or green verdigris. A sculptor friend of mine used to do lots of these effects and there are lots more you can achieve apart from these, but which usually involve special powders mixed together and added to casting resin (good for casting but not so good for paintwork post production effects).

My advice is to try a little and see how it works. It takes a good 24 hours for the full oxidisation to occur. Also I found that the areas that looked most rusty were often turned face downwards so that there was little 'run off' of the activator and it didn't dry out under my work lights.

HMMS Gladiator was 'kit bashed' using components from a 1/20 Machinen Krieger (Ma.k) kit, also called the 'Gladiator'. This is a long out of production range from Japan of super futuristic battle armour and vehicles which was produced in various scales. Rabbitz put me onto them originally. Just type in Ma.k in ebay and you'll see the sort of thing I mean.

This was the original kit:




and here are all the component parts in quite hi quality resin:



This kit seems to be a rip off casting. Here's the link to the e-bay shop in China where I got it from:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Resin-KIT-1-20-Ma-k-SAFS-Gladiator_W0QQitemZ120287699359QQihZ002QQcategoryZ16511QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

I picked up 2 of them together as it saved on postage and the vendor was very quick to post and despite limited English he communicated with me quickly. So now I have enough bits to build the Mark V....

The remainder of the vessel incorporated mostly hardboard, balsa, an electrical extension socket for the boiler and sone plastic plumbing pipe to get the nice rounded firing bays on the upper deck. The figures are all Perries Naval brigade and Heliograph crew from their Sudan Range (you can see more of them on my Sudan battle report 'To the Last Man' on the Colonial page on this forum. The Gatling Guns are again from Perry.

The ships hardware such as bulkhead doors, steering wheels, gun mounts etc are from Reviresco. Their figures are nowhere near the sculpt quality of the aformentioned but I like their ship gear and cannons. Those doors actually do hinge and operate. Here's the site:
http://www.tin-soldier.com/

Check out their VSF section and their colonial one too. Lots of interesting paper zeppelin models and strange aerial torpedoes for sale. Though I expect many members of this forum know all about them already.

The rust effect is enhanced (and gaps sealed) by a little wood filler. I use polyfilla woodflex. This gives a surface a nice 'tooth'. I do mean to still add rivets and have read an interesting article about breaking open a water filter insert and using the thousands of (ceramic?) beads inside.

HMMS Orca is actually a Wizards of the Coast Star Wars ATST "Wookie Hunter".

These are really cool little models (I got mine on ebay for about 3 quid) and although a rather bendy plastic the larger models in the range have more stiffness. I simply lopped the top section front off (luckily it is hollow inside), swivelled it 180 degrees and re-fixed it to become an open deck. The two turret sections are once again just plumbing pipe sawn in half and I felt gave it a nice visual link to it's big brother, HMMS Gladiator. The two huge side blasters were removed but I remounted one on a ball mounting (wooden jewellery bead) underneath and added another jewellery piece as the funnel of the flamethrower. I made it an underbody mounting after I mounted it between the legs and found this to be....shall we say not in good taste (Queen Victoria would not have been amused).

Hope that helps. Now I have to focus on my Martian pirate atack ships and my British mobile steam artillery. More pics to come..

TJG




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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2008, 01:32:53 PM »
Thanks,
     That's great inspiration, and I will be trying the rust effect in the near future. Also seeing whichkits and where they come from is really handy.
     Now if only I could paint faster I'd be able to build more.

Cheers

Fritzy

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2008, 09:26:13 AM »
Excellent battle report and spondiferous pictures. You've got a great collection there chaps. Now to covince the other half we need another trip to visit the famliy in Western Australia!! 
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Offline thejammedgatling

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2008, 12:39:15 PM »
Excellent battle report and spondiferous pictures. You've got a great collection there chaps. Now to covince the other half we need another trip to visit the famliy in Western Australia!! 

Thankyou! All are welcome down under. Remember to bring a tub of suncream, a sensible hat and a large box full of VSF creations.

Oh all right just the VSF creations..

Offline Rabbitz

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2008, 01:34:18 PM »
Hi all,

Just because I got asked what stats we used in the game for things I thought I would post links to our quick ref sheets.  They are for use with the GASLIGHT rules.

Cheers

<a href="http://hutchs-wargames.co.uk/images/Prussian.doc> Prussian Quick Ref sheet[/url]
<a href="http://hutchs-wargames.co.uk/images/British.doc> British Quick Ref sheet[/url]

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2008, 01:42:56 PM »
Looks like a great game. The vehicles look stunning.
Barry

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2008, 02:50:02 PM »
Hi all,

Just because I got asked what stats we used in the game for things I thought I would post links to our quick ref sheets.  They are for use with the GASLIGHT rules.

Cheers

<a href="http://hutchs-wargames.co.uk/images/Prussian.doc> Prussian Quick Ref sheet[/url]
<a href="http://hutchs-wargames.co.uk/images/British.doc> British Quick Ref sheet[/url]

Great stuff and very helpful.

Offline thejammedgatling

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2008, 03:55:01 PM »
Hi all,

Just because I got asked what stats we used in the game for things I thought I would post links to our quick ref sheets.  They are for use with the GASLIGHT rules.

Cheers

<a href="http://hutchs-wargames.co.uk/images/Prussian.doc> Prussian Quick Ref sheet[/url]
<a href="http://hutchs-wargames.co.uk/images/British.doc> British Quick Ref sheet[/url]

If anyone is thinking of playing these stats my advice for a more balanced game would be to lower the villagers shoot and melee scores. They were just too good, regardless of how puffed up with jingoistic fervour they were... Also giving the Prussians at least another unit of 10 or so flesh and blood soldiers would have evened up things a bit. The terrain also made a big difference to the outcome with ours being very easy to defend, though it did hamper movement of the big stuff.

Rabbitz you did a great job though with the stats though overall. Anyway, log off this forum Rabbitz and start painting some more up!!


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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2008, 01:07:59 PM »
Hi all,

Just because I got asked what stats we used in the game for things I thought I would post links to our quick ref sheets.  They are for use with the GASLIGHT rules.

Cheers

<a href="http://hutchs-wargames.co.uk/images/Prussian.doc> Prussian Quick Ref sheet[/url]
<a href="http://hutchs-wargames.co.uk/images/British.doc> British Quick Ref sheet[/url]

I see you are using modified versions of the stats sheets I published on the Yahoo GASLIGHT forum. I'm glad they were of use to you.

Did you use my playsheets too? I Would be interested in some feedback.

If you have no objections I may steal your ideas for the Prussian automatons. The idea of fitting them with gramaphones is cool. What parts did you use? A close-up photo of one of the conversions would be nice too :)
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Offline Rabbitz

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2008, 02:47:21 PM »
Hi Bullshot,

Yes the stat sheets were really useful, all we did was adjust the bits we wanted to on them.  We also used your quick ref sheet (at least I believe it was yours, as its in the same style)  With that we just deleted the bits we didnt need and replaced the vehicle damage chart with the one from the original GASLIGHT rulebook.

<a href="http://hutchs-wargames.co.uk/images/TEHLQref1.doc> TEHL Quick ref sheet[/url]


I didn't modify the Clanks at all.  the one with the plume has some kind of weapon were all the others have machineguns and it just looked more like a tube of a gramaphone then a weapon.  (I have no idea what its actually meant to be if im honest)


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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2008, 05:34:28 PM »
Fantastic work and a great tread.  "We are most amused."

I must try to get some of that rust effect, its brilliant!

Offline Sterling Moose

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Re: BATTLE OF SANDRINGHAM 1903 UPDATED pictures AND WALKERS
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2008, 11:53:40 PM »
Nice bunting  :D
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