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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #30 on: 17 July 2014, 10:36:32 PM »
That looks great!  Better for sure.
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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #31 on: 17 July 2014, 10:38:30 PM »
Looking good!
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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #32 on: 19 July 2014, 11:36:15 PM »
Better shape for a cargo ship, yes  :)

Have you got any vent holes for the solvent fumes?

You could get the back vac-formed and then use the pen for the rivets but it would need a solid former of the shape.

The other option would be to keep the angle of the hull the same as it goes down the straight side and wraps round the back, that way you only have one curve to worry about and not a compound curve that would make shaping it difficult.

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There's no holes for the fumes James. I've figured if I can keep the plastic card tight enough for a minute until the glue slightly sets, it seems to work!

The vac formings a good idea. It's either that or I need to form a rough shape then gs and sand it.  Then its just getting rivets on some how! I quite fancing a more difficult option than just a curved back end.

I've managed to make a turret for this. I'm trying to do a compromise between real life and playable. I didn't want the turret taking up the whole deck.









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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #33 on: 19 July 2014, 11:57:24 PM »
Great work! This bow hull looks much much better!

This might give you some inspiration too: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=68567.msg837774#msg837774 it's a different sort of modular freighter.

As far as the stern goes, Jim has a pretty solid idea there. The simplest way of doing it is a semi-circle deck, where the hull simply wraps around doing a 180, while maintaining the same vertical slope. If you want to push your luck farther, the rear angle can be slightly more severe than the sides.

Then just add the top of a rudder post in the space between the waterline and the back of the hull.


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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #34 on: 20 July 2014, 03:25:56 AM »
Lovely :-*
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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #35 on: 20 July 2014, 11:55:44 AM »
What length is the ship going to be?

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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #36 on: 20 July 2014, 09:22:26 PM »
Interesting project to follow ...  :)

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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #37 on: 29 July 2014, 12:22:47 PM »
What length is the ship going to be?

The main hull can't be any more than 18" Colin. That's the size of Ainstys Vac chamber.

I've managed to get a bit more done on this I've found that if you do more layers of thin plastic card that overlap and spread the polystyrene cement evenly it doesn't kink anywhere near as much. I think the new hull looks a lot better than the old one. I may go back to the old one and fix it.





I've also started a few different cabins to allow some different configurations. I'm also halfway through making the stern using G'S and high density rigid foam. The funnel that's pictured here will have to be scrapped as I did it before I realised how to not see the thin plastic card buckle!! :(








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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #38 on: 29 July 2014, 12:32:21 PM »
Looking promising mate  8)

I would suggest that the funnel is a tad large maybe?

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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #39 on: 29 July 2014, 01:46:17 PM »
maybe You could also think about taking down the cabin heights 1-2 cm, due to proportion issues

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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Better Hull Design? 17/7)
« Reply #40 on: 29 July 2014, 03:59:32 PM »
Looking promising mate  8)

I would suggest that the funnel is a tad large maybe?

cheers

James

Yip! I agree. I tried to get away with wrapping plastic card around a tube I just happen to have. I need to find something smaller.

maybe You could also think about taking down the cabin heights 1-2 cm, due to proportion issues

I'm not sure that work work mate. I think they'd look too small against a 28 mm figure. What might work better would be to lengthen/up scale the hull. I should see Andy at the weekend at Claymore, I'll discuss the options with him then. He might want to go for the modular hull, where you could have ANY length of boat by joining as many bits as you fancy together!

Thanks for the comments gentlemen, they always help!!

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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Update 29/7)
« Reply #41 on: 30 July 2014, 12:03:25 AM »
I may be in a minority, but still liking the 'old' hull.. There is some great character to it.
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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Update 29/7)
« Reply #42 on: 30 July 2014, 01:05:55 AM »
Very nice work.

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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Update 29/7)
« Reply #43 on: 30 July 2014, 07:23:18 AM »
Interesting variation between both bow styles.  Perhaps a modular approach to the boat hull would enable both to be considered?

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Re: Ainsty Steamer(Update 29/7)
« Reply #44 on: 30 July 2014, 07:24:09 AM »
I may be in a minority, but still liking the 'old' hull.. There is some great character to it.

Cheers gents!!

Depending on what Ainsty wants, i may save that old hull by adding extra layers of plastic card.

Interesting variation between both bow styles.  Perhaps a modular approach to the boat hull would enable both to be considered?

Thanks Kev!

Ill speak to Andy this weekend mate and see what he wants. It could be an option for a couple different bows and sterns?
« Last Edit: 30 July 2014, 07:26:11 AM by Andym »

 

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