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Offline Helen

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #75 on: December 16, 2014, 09:08:16 PM »
I admit being surprised that they actually look like quite a decent set of figures, all things considered: http://www.warlordgames.com/showcase-senegalese-tirailleurs/

Who knows, some Dragons-portes might also be in the works?  :)

Lovely Warlords are for the upcoming release, but when you look at the fragile rifles I feel the pain already.
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Offline lou passejaire

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #76 on: March 15, 2015, 10:15:28 AM »
vehicles list updated with the realese, next week of the Laffly 50 by Mad Bob miniatures .

the senegaleses are in the pipeline ... from Warlord
an other realese too :

still this stupid Boys ATR ( only used by a few recce units ), a 50mm mortar never issued due to the lack of ammo and still evrybody with full kit , even the sniper  >:(

i hope we will have some Bataillon de Marche senegalese troopers before summer from the Perry twins ...

i'm planning to use some Askari Miniatures Legion cavalry with empress miniatures SCW morrocan heads ... to create some morrocan spahis for erytrea-syria ...
only a minor difference in the design of the saddle , it seem's ...
« Last Edit: March 15, 2015, 10:31:15 AM by lou passejaire »
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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #77 on: March 15, 2015, 06:30:33 PM »
You know there's no shortage of anything in Bolt Action World.  ;)

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #78 on: March 15, 2015, 07:45:37 PM »
there is some shortage of historical knowledge ...

as i said on a french forum , they need to start an indiegogo campaign to offer some books to the authors and sculptors ...  ;)

Offline Arlequín

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2015, 10:47:43 AM »
Indeed... I remember the comment in the 'France and the Allies' supplement that all Renault FT tanks had been converted to machine gun armament by WWII.



However in all fairness, if I had a Franc for each time I thought I had researched something correctly and then someone comes along and shows me I'm wrong, I could afford to employ a research team.
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Offline lou passejaire

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #80 on: March 16, 2015, 11:23:31 AM »
i know, the french army is not an easy subject, but there are some easy sources ( in english for some )

the most difficult is the early free french erea

ther is a lack of "official" informations, pictures, i'm trying to work on the subject, and have a lot of troubles ...


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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #81 on: April 20, 2015, 05:11:24 PM »
I have made some Moroccans Spahis using Askari miniatures interwar Legion Cavalry and some Empress SCW Moroccan heads .



it's quite correct

Thanks for editing the 1st post, Arlequin  ;)

Offline Arlequín

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #82 on: April 20, 2015, 07:46:42 PM »
That really seems to have worked out well. I'm no expert, but they look like I would expect them to. I take it they would have a European officer?

 :)

As for the editing, I said I would at some point. I have cut back some 'old growth' in the thread itself too. If you have any further improvements, by all means send me a PM.

 :) 

Offline lou passejaire

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #83 on: April 20, 2015, 09:42:21 PM »
well the cartridge belts are not the right ones , it was saharian crossed belts who were used  ;)

but if i look at this


at platoon level, there is no officer only a NCO , native or european ...

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #84 on: April 21, 2015, 06:10:38 AM »
Overall though they give the right effect though. Do you have a date for the photo? They appear to have U.S. M1 Carbines, so I am guessing 1943 at the earliest.

What an unusual way to carry the carbine... it is certainly not a useful way to do so.

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #85 on: April 21, 2015, 08:24:04 AM »
no, they are carrying french Mousqueton de Cavalerie Modéle 1916


( even if the spahi in the center of the picture seem's to carry some civilian shotgun ?  ???

the picture is of 1st squadroon , 1st Moroccan Spahis, some days after they left Vichy Syria to join the British in Palestine the 2 of July 1940 . They fought in Erytrea, Syria,latter  this unit became motorized infantry and Armoured cars ( using captured Vichy french dodge Tanake and latter Marmon Herrington Mk3 modified ).


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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #86 on: April 21, 2015, 09:39:57 AM »
I think in the photo they wear M1 carbines too. You can see the bayonet fixation under the barrel



« Last Edit: April 21, 2015, 09:41:29 AM by Koinsky »

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #87 on: April 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM »
the M1 was first issued in 1943 .
In 1943, the 1st Moroccan spahis regiment was a full armored cars regiment ( some platoons retaining some ( a combat group of 12 ) moroccan soldiers acting as motorized infantry ) .

but it's possible that some were issued MAS 36 .


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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #88 on: April 21, 2015, 11:19:18 AM »
Someone is wrong somewhere then. That is definitely the M1 - as Koinsky says you can see the bayonet lug. All the visible barrels project much further than on either of the French weapons and the sling passes through the butts that can be seen. The smooth curve of the grip on the centre figure is also the same as the M1. 

It may of course be the right unit, but the time of the photograph is certainly not 1940. I wonder if this is some form of special 'final mounted' parade to mark the changeover from horse to motor, or something like that? Such things happened in the British Army, pre-war at least.

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #89 on: April 21, 2015, 01:47:00 PM »
Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa ...  :?

this is a late war picture , 1945 . bad label  :-[

It's a victory parade ... so it's a M1

Here are 1941 spahis :







 

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