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Offline Dave C

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15mm PSC Panthers
« on: November 06, 2014, 06:42:06 PM »
Here's a few photos of my latest efforts. x5 Panthers from the the PSC. They are meant to represent the 1st SS Panzer division in the Ardennes. Hope you like them and as ever constructive criticism always welcome.

 

Offline Tom Reed

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Re: 15mm PSC Panthers
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2014, 07:03:49 PM »
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the deal with the red barrel?
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Offline Gunbird

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Re: 15mm PSC Panthers
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2014, 09:00:02 PM »
Representing the red primer that is the rage for late war stuff, but you made a error as the Germans replacement barrels were always grey. So I was told when I painted my battel in primer.
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Offline dm

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Re: 15mm PSC Panthers
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2014, 08:38:04 PM »
Really like them :)

Offline Dave C

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Re: 15mm PSC Panthers
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2014, 10:20:18 AM »
Guys

Thanks for looking. Gunbird is right about the replacement barrel. I understand that that in the latter months of the war the German forces were so busy that they didn't have time to paint replacement barrels. The red colour represents the oxide primer that the barrel would have been painted with when manufactured. I'm not sure about it being grey though. FOW painting guide 'Art of War 2' states that the primer colour was red and, interestingly, was applied to vehcile tracks too.

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Re: 15mm PSC Panthers
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2014, 01:30:51 PM »
I think the brown on the camo should have, at this point of the war, been more reddish (in part being red dioxide primer). About the barrel, I think FoW (surprise) made an error. I have seen several colourized pictures and B&W pictures where you can understand the colours of late war panthers and the barrels were never reddish. I think there was grey coating applied in the factory for some purpose.  I think it is just a lighting effect but they are quite shiny too!

Now one thing that just reflects my own personal preference. I think that tanks benefit from black-lining it has details popping out.

Said that they are quite nice.
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Re: 15mm PSC Panthers
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2014, 05:52:05 PM »
Very nice, scale-effective camo, but the folks are right - to my knowledge, the red primer (a lead-oxide paint) was only used for the actual vehicles (hulls, running gears etc.), gun barrels were coated using a heat-resistant lacquer paint which was some dark shade of gray, and possibly slightly glossy. So replacement gun barrels should actually be a dark grey rather than oxide red.

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Re: 15mm PSC Panthers
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2014, 09:29:37 PM »
Very nice, scale-effective camo, but the folks are right - to my knowledge, the red primer (a lead-oxide paint) was only used for the actual vehicles (hulls, running gears etc.), gun barrels were coated using a heat-resistant lacquer paint which was some dark shade of gray, and possibly slightly glossy. So replacement gun barrels should actually be a dark grey rather than oxide red.

+1, the gun barrels were painted in a grey color paint.

Otherwise, really nice job on these Panthers!

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Re: 15mm PSC Panthers
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2014, 09:45:25 AM »
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the deal with the red barrel?

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Very nice work, whatever the colour of the barrel. Those PSC tanks are amazing for 15mm. Leaves anything by Battlefront for dead.
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Offline V

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Re: 15mm PSC Panthers
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2014, 08:45:12 PM »
Nice hard edge camo!


Yup, gun barrels were painted in a heat resistant grey laquer for an undercoat, not red primer.

 

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