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Author Topic: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon  (Read 10489 times)

Offline Arlequín

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2015, 10:47:13 AM »
True, but surely as is the case today... some methods of dying were more effective and indeed more expensive. Some of the brightly coloured but cheap items fade very fast.

Offline Atheling

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2015, 11:55:29 AM »
[quote author=Nord link=topic=75074.msg917818#msg917818 date=1422537706
On the step by step, will see what I can do. Already made a start on the billmen but not got too far, so will try to take some pics as I go along. Then you will see just how cunningly simple my "technique" is. It really is mostly base coating and glazing.
[/quote]

Jolly good  8).

Darrell.

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2015, 12:00:47 PM »


Billmen done. For more pictures, amusing captions and a bit of blah, blah, take a look at my blog. If you scroll down past the bills, there's a painting article/tutorial too.

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2015, 01:10:26 PM »
Cracking stuff  8) 8) 8)

Offline Atheling

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2015, 01:22:03 PM »
Cracking stuff  8) 8) 8)

Yep, really nice work indeed  :-* :-* :-*

Darrell.

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2015, 02:23:17 PM »
Those billmen look great, might have to follow your tutorial for mine.

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2015, 05:31:50 PM »
Really nice paintjobs on the archers and the bills. The bases really compliment the brushwork.
 

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2015, 08:29:36 PM »
Another unit finished, only 6 bidowers but over half way through now. More on my blog.


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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2015, 08:48:07 PM »
They're very nice.

(What's a 'bidower' by the way. Been seeing this a lot recently, which suggests this is some deeply arcane technical term the Lion Rampant rules-smith has dredged up from his medieval dictionary? Must we now add 'bidower' to the list of hobilars, scurrers, prickers, and other esoteric medieval troop types...  ::))

Offline Arlequín

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2015, 09:07:50 PM »
A bidower is the same as a bayouney, or a bidaut, or a bidaux, or a bidet... so some kind of French footbath.  ;)

Apparently some kind of Basque or Navarrese guy with little armour, a shield, spear and/or javelins. Nobody actually knows, but that doesn't stop them guessing and making stuff up anyway.
 :)

*Edit* Actually there weren't that many troop types and had Phil Barker been a couple of years older, he would have neatly ordered them all into a much smaller group of clearly differentiated types. As it was getting Medieval chroniclers to consistently use the same term for the same thing was like herding cats.
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Offline jamesmanto

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2015, 09:27:36 PM »
That's the level you achieve when you don't spend too much time on them?

Blimey. o_o

Wot 'e said. Effing brilliant!

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2015, 10:44:29 PM »
A bidower is the same as a bayouney, or a bidaut, or a bidaux, or a bidet... so some kind of French footbath.  ;)

Apparently some kind of Basque or Navarrese guy with little armour, a shield, spear and/or javelins. Nobody actually knows, but that doesn't stop them guessing and making stuff up anyway.
 :)


Quite.

Now bidauts and ribauds I have heard of. But bidower - never. It does annoy me that because some rules writer has hit upon some long lost technical term to denote some particular esoteric ability in his rules, wargamers everywhere will now be parroting 'bidower' in every medieval conversation... Ho hum.

Sorry to wander off-topic  :)

Offline Vermis

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2015, 01:40:55 AM »
Nice bidowers anyway.  :D The WGF guys slot in surprisingly well.

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2015, 09:23:43 AM »
I assume bidower is a bowman who has recently lost his wife.  ;)

Offline Gibby

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Re: Another passenger for the Lion Rampant bandwagon
« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2015, 10:44:52 AM »
I hold firmly to the revisionist theory of the last few years: that the medieval world was not all grey stone, undyed wool and dismal grunge, but actually highly colourful. Castles were rendered and brightly painted on the outside and painted in bright colours on the inside with colourful and ornate decoration. Wealthy nobles would have access to the best fabrics, dyes and craftspeople, to clothe them and their entourages in a wardrobe every bit as colourful as today's.
I say this, not just because I happen to like painting all my figures in bright, bold colours (although I do :D), but because I see no reason to believe this version of history isn't true. We all seem able to happily accept gorgeous visions of the court of Henry VIII, and all the grandly furnished, decorated houses, and brightly clothed households of the nobility of the day. That's in, what, the 1530s? Is it that hard to believe that interior design and textile colouring techniques would have been so very different in, say, the mid-1400s? Or even the late 1300s?

That said, I like a unit of grungy-looking commoners as much as the next man, and yours are exceptionally nice Nord  :)
Still looking forward to seeing what you do with the more upper class types.
 :) 

It would be fair to call it "getting rid of tropes the Victorians made up". The excellent book about Edward I (Great and Terrible King) I read described Edward's childhood bedroom painted green and painted with gold stars, and that was even earlier than you say.

Great painting in this thread!

 

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