15cm sFH Lorraines, 21st PD finished

[Tommy20]

Do you prefer 1/56 or 1/48, if you could click you fingers and all your models were the same scale what would it be?

1/48 looks better than 1/56 to me, but if I had my druthers 1/50 would be the sweet spot.

[FramFramson]

I'm a fan of 1/56 myself, but as you say there's already some competition there. Can be a tough choice - if it were easy everyone would have already picked one scale!

[Tom Dulski]

1/48 looks better than 1/56 to me, but if I had my druthers 1/50 would be the sweet spot.

 Agree 1/50 looks perfect in scale with regards to bolt action minis

[Gunner Dunbar]

Hi guys

Added some decals, chipping, pin washes, and a dry brush, next stage will be some weathering, then some crews for the guns and halftracks and some bases.
https://gunnerswargamming.blogspot.com/2023/08/mixed-vehicle-batch-wip.html

[Freddy]

Great looking vehicles!

[Gunner Dunbar]

Hi guys

Have added an early Pz III to the inventory, the 3 crew will be offered with premium quality option, not sure about the table top quality option yet, I have all turret hatches open, commanders hatch open and all hatches closed options, I could just provide them randomly, or choose 1 option to stock, if I only chose 1  it would probably be with the commanders hatch open, working on a Pz IV D at the moment, still lots of work before I’m able to sell anything.
https://gunnerswargamming.blogspot.com/2023/08/pz-iiig-added-to-inventory.html

[Tom Dulski]

Impressive work.

[Gunner Dunbar]

 Hi guys

Working on this gun/limber set as a future release, need to tinker with it, there are some very delicate parts, not for handling, as fingers can’t get to the delicate parts, but for removal from the supports in post production, the handwheels and struts in the middle of trails sometimes break away during the process, but otherwise I’m pretty happy with it, it’s a reworking of the Bergmann file, which I will produce in 1/72 and 1/56 under license.

Now for my question, I have also made the rubber tyre version, and I’d like to make 2 sets, one towed by a Krupp, the other by the Sdkfz 10 as pictured, does anyone know the designation name/number of the limber in the picture? And does anyone have any better pictures of that limber? It looks a little like the the If.5 MG Wagon limber, which I have already made, but without the seating for crew, but I’m not sure, any help would be appreciated.
https://gunnerswargamming.blogspot.com/2023/08/leig18-limber-and-crew.html

[fred]

Nice work

The limber looks very much like the WWI one - which wouldn’t be too surprising. But I don’t know how they were ID’d

[Gunner Dunbar]

Nice work

The limber looks very much like the WWI one - which wouldn’t be too surprising. But I don’t know how they were ID’d

Thanks, turns out it’s a Soviet universal limber

[Gunner Dunbar]

 Hi guys

Working on another set, this time a towed Pak38, adding some mounted gunners with this set, those will  come in any horse drawn artillery set I do, I’ve also made a towed Pak38 with the tow wheel attached in the tow position and a version without the tow wheel.
https://gunnerswargamming.blogspot.com/2023/08/towed-pak38-and-leig18-with-pneumatic.html

[Freddy]

Nice work, if that helps, I have some limber walkarounds on my blog. Mostly Hungarians though, but this is for the updated version of the Goering howitzer:
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/01/59-keceli-lovegmozdony-1.html

[Gunner Dunbar]

Nice work, if that helps, I have some limber walkarounds on my blog. Mostly Hungarians though, but this is for the updated version of the Goering howitzer:
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/01/59-keceli-lovegmozdony-1.html

Hi Freddy
Are you able to send me links of your Hungarian limber pages, actually anything WWII Hungarian you have, especially horse drawn and soft skin vehicles?

[Freddy]

Hi Freddy
Are you able to send me links of your Hungarian limber pages, actually anything WWII Hungarian you have, especially horse drawn and soft skin vehicles?

I post a walkaround every Sunday on my blog, these were made by me in various museums around here Most of my pics are Warsaw pact tech, I have a full list with links:
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/11/334-fenykepgyujtemenyek-listaja.html
Pre-1945 Hungarian tech is hard to reach as it was mostly destroyed in the war or immediately after it (they were needed for the rebuilding of the country- softskin vehicle were pushed to death in a few years of the intense work, tanks were melted for their good quality steel). The few surviving pieces are either ww1 relics already in museums during ww2 or those which were kept in army service after the war. Also there are a few surviving examples in the Russian tank museum in Kubinka, but that was a bit hard to reach even before the curent events. This is a really bad situation of the Hungarian modeling community as even the common vehicles like the KV40 are only to be reconstructed based on bad quality archive photos.

An old cart- two sets of pics, open-air exhibition is not the best for this, but the second one also has size data. This is the standard Hungarian peasant cart, army also used it in large quantities from pre-ww1 times to the early 50s. In ww2 they were painted green, some even had a machine gun mount.
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/02/88-orszagos-jarmu-kecel-2012.html
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/08/270-meg-orszagosabb-jarmu.html

Limber for smaller cannons, used for 37mm Pak36 and 75mm Skoda mountain cannon too.
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/01/61-keceli-lovegmozdony-3.html

Limber for the 10cm M14 cannon. used in both wws.
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/01/60-keceli-lovegmozdony-2.html

10,5cm 40M howitzer, with limber. The howitzer only has the cart piece, a similar one was used for the burial of József Antall (the first freely elected Hungarial prime Minister after the communism, who died during his term in 1993), thats why it has that box instead of the actual cannon. The cannon was developed because Hungary did not get the license to manufacture Görings, later used in the Zríny assault gun.
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/07/233-105cm-40m-tarack-temeteshez.html
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/01/62-keceli-lovegmozdony-4.html

The Göring howitzers, the older type was towed by purpose built SdKfz11s, the later one (also kept in postwar service) had the limber.
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/05/179-37m-105cm-tarack-kecel-2011.html
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/05/186-40m-105cm-tarack-kecel-2011.html
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/01/59-keceli-lovegmozdony-1.html

5/8M 8cm field cannon. Extensively used in both wws, it kinda sucked in the second, but you fight with the weapons you have
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/03/116-58m-8cm-tabori-agyu-kecel-2011.html

38M 37mm Skoda AT gun. Hungaran Army used a lot of similar small AT guns to bolster its lack of AT capabilities, hastily purchased from the Germans (who took them from the defeated European armies) or handed over by Polish refugees*
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2022/10/519-37mm-38m-skoda-pct-agyu-kecel-2022.html

*Hungary only entered the war in 1941 and has an unique friendship with Poland dating back to the 14th century, so after the invasion of Poland, fleeing soldiers of the defeated army were welcome in Hungary. Sometimes complete units crossed the border with all their equipment- these were handed over to the Hungarians and pressed into service here, so in general, most of the common Polish softskins can painted in Hungarian colours. Like this Polski Fiat 508/514 AA car I built
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/03/114-magyar-kiralyi-technical.html
All the informations about this vehicle being in Hungarian service is two photos, but this is quite common for the ww2 Hungarian softskin topic. In general, everything was used. Civilian vehicles were conscripted, Polish trucks and cars, captured Russian GAZ and Zis trucks- everything.

[Gunner Dunbar]

I post a walkaround every Sunday on my blog, these were made by me in various museums around here Most of my pics are Warsaw pact tech, I have a full list with links:
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/11/334-fenykepgyujtemenyek-listaja.html
Pre-1945 Hungarian tech is hard to reach as it was mostly destroyed in the war or immediately after it (they were needed for the rebuilding of the country- softskin vehicle were pushed to death in a few years of the intense work, tanks were melted for their good quality steel). The few surviving pieces are either ww1 relics already in museums during ww2 or those which were kept in army service after the war. Also there are a few surviving examples in the Russian tank museum in Kubinka, but that was a bit hard to reach even before the curent events. This is a really bad situation of the Hungarian modeling community as even the common vehicles like the KV40 are only to be reconstructed based on bad quality archive photos.

An old cart- two sets of pics, open-air exhibition is not the best for this, but the second one also has size data. This is the standard Hungarian peasant cart, army also used it in large quantities from pre-ww1 times to the early 50s. In ww2 they were painted green, some even had a machine gun mount.
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/02/88-orszagos-jarmu-kecel-2012.html
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/08/270-meg-orszagosabb-jarmu.html

Limber for smaller cannons, used for 37mm Pak36 and 75mm Skoda mountain cannon too.
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/01/61-keceli-lovegmozdony-3.html

Limber for the 10cm M14 cannon. used in both wws.
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/01/60-keceli-lovegmozdony-2.html

10,5cm 40M howitzer, with limber. The howitzer only has the cart piece, a similar one was used for the burial of József Antall (the first freely elected Hungarial prime Minister after the communism, who died during his term in 1993), thats why it has that box instead of the actual cannon. The cannon was developed because Hungary did not get the license to manufacture Görings, later used in the Zríny assault gun.
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/07/233-105cm-40m-tarack-temeteshez.html
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/01/62-keceli-lovegmozdony-4.html

The Göring howitzers, the older type was towed by purpose built SdKfz11s, the later one (also kept in postwar service) had the limber.
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/05/179-37m-105cm-tarack-kecel-2011.html
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/05/186-40m-105cm-tarack-kecel-2011.html
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/01/59-keceli-lovegmozdony-1.html

5/8M 8cm field cannon. Extensively used in both wws, it kinda sucked in the second, but you fight with the weapons you have
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/03/116-58m-8cm-tabori-agyu-kecel-2011.html

38M 37mm Skoda AT gun. Hungaran Army used a lot of similar small AT guns to bolster its lack of AT capabilities, hastily purchased from the Germans (who took them from the defeated European armies) or handed over by Polish refugees*
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2022/10/519-37mm-38m-skoda-pct-agyu-kecel-2022.html

*Hungary only entered the war in 1941 and has an unique friendship with Poland dating back to the 14th century, so after the invasion of Poland, fleeing soldiers of the defeated army were welcome in Hungary. Sometimes complete units crossed the border with all their equipment- these were handed over to the Hungarians and pressed into service here, so in general, most of the common Polish softskins can painted in Hungarian colours. Like this Polski Fiat 508/514 AA car I built
https://makettekeswg.blogspot.com/2021/03/114-magyar-kiralyi-technical.html
All the informations about this vehicle being in Hungarian service is two photos, but this is quite common for the ww2 Hungarian softskin topic. In general, everything was used. Civilian vehicles were conscripted, Polish trucks and cars, captured Russian GAZ and Zis trucks- everything.

Wow Freddy, your the man, I have been searching for Hungarian limber pics for a long time, with no luck, lots of nice stuff there, one day when I have time I will make some of these as 3D models, thank you very much.