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Author Topic: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force... UPDATED 7/09/21  (Read 18198 times)

Offline Stevo

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2015, 10:20:21 AM »
Super impressed and jealous of your beautiful soldiers. Brilliant work!

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2015, 10:43:59 AM »
Very well done. :-* :-*
More please.

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2015, 10:50:39 AM »
Your reds and yellows really stand out well. I also really like the plaid/tartan cloak - plain, simple but very effective.
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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2015, 02:37:26 PM »
The heraldry on the surcoats is beautifully executed.  Wonderful stuff all around.
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Offline Iain R

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2015, 08:46:39 PM »
Thanks for all the kind comments, gents, much appreciated!

Put the finishing touches on the second schiltrom this morning; this one lead by Sir John de Haga, with the saltire borne by Sir Robert Hert (Hart) of Lanark.





Sir Robert's arms are conjectural; I couldn't find a definitive coat of arms for this individual, but of all the various permutations that turned up on the interwebs, this one seemed the most likely; as he was an adherent of Douglas, the similarity to the Douglas arms seemed plausible and since the other contender featured a field of green, a highly unusual colour in early Scots heraldry, as well as two secondary colours, so I decided to go with this. I've given the Saltire to him to carry, because both he and Sir David Colville are named in different sources as carrying Douglas' standard, in addition to Sir Archibald Douglas of Cavers carrying the Cavers Ensign. In the end I plumped for Colville with Douglas' standard, so Hert was the obvious choice to carry what I would have classed as Douglas' "other" banner during the campaign. it also fit neatly in with Sir John de Haga's arms.....
















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Offline Ray Earle

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2015, 08:56:45 PM »
Very nice.  :D

Great work on the surcoats.
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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2015, 09:31:48 PM »
I'm loving these photos. Do you have any idea how Claymore fit with Perry figures?

Offline Iain R

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2015, 09:53:19 PM »
Cheers guys!

I'm loving these photos. Do you have any idea how Claymore fit with Perry figures?

I find the Claymore sculpts are noticably smaller, though a ot of people mix them quite happily. give me 5 mins and I'll post up a comparison.

Offline Iain R

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2015, 10:10:14 PM »
OK, as you can see, the Perry pikeman on the left is noticably bigger than the Claymore equivilant on the right (who, although in a slightly more "hunched" pose, is mounted on a thicker base).

However, a comparison of the Perry knight with the Claymore knight shows much more of a parity (both mounted on the same thickness base this time).



However, however, however, on putting the Perry knight back in his blister, I noticed that compared to the unarmoured musician in the same blister, he appears quite puny, so overall it seems that it differs on a figure by figure basis.

Overall, i've found the the claymore figures to be cleaner casts, with better definition of the fine detail, if possibly featuring less "intricate" detail than the Perry's in places. So pretty much swings nd roundabouts, then....

Offline Big Martin Back

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2015, 10:26:05 PM »
They are looking good. I have been thinking of getting some Claymore figures myself and  this has convinced me.
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Offline Arundel

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2015, 11:33:22 PM »
Iain, thank you kindly, that was extremely helpful. I agree that the Claymore look like beautiful castings and can see they would be a lot of fun to paint up. While I really like the Perry HYW range, I have found their figures somewhat fiddly in detail in the past. Anyway, I'm most grateful for the information!

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« Last Edit: May 30, 2015, 11:37:11 PM by Arundel »

Offline Iain R

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2015, 11:34:41 PM »
I aim to please....  lol

One (two?) more before bed, progress on Sir William and Sir George Jnr...




Sir George will be wearing his father's arms (fnarrr) differenced with a label azure; conjectural, yes, but the most plausible I could come up with. Meanwhile, there is no historical basis for the claret and amber details on Sir Wiliam's Ahketon, but given his lands around Motherwell, it just seemed appropriate...

Cheers
Iain

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Re: Otterburn Era Scots; Another Ubiquitous Lion Rampant Force...
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2015, 11:36:40 PM »
No problem, Arundel. The Claymore sculpts are a joy to paint.

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Great work Iain! Nice to see a Scottish army, we don't see many!

 

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