How to Game city street fighting for the European revolutions of 1848?

[Shipka]

I need some thoughts about the ideal rule system or if anyone has homegrown rules for mid 19thC street fighting, I am looking at the period 1848-1849, all suggestions most welcome..

[Lowtardog]

Are you talking gangs or armed fighting

[AdamPHayes]

I have played some enjoyable urban based games of Donnybrook. It balances the superior capabilities of smaller regular troops vs larger militia or civilian mobs quite nicely. Not much to adjust for the differences in the later period either.

[Shipka]

Have you got a link to the rule system?

[AdamPHayes]

Have you got a link to the rule system?

Here they are:
http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/shop/product-520.html

[Baron von Nickedoften]

It's a long time since I've used them, but I do recall some rather riotous games with these many years ago (especially as we managed to find roles that suited everyone's politics).  You would need to adapt them for rifled weapons etc:-

http://www.jimwallman.org.uk/wargame/llm-riotrule%20v2.pdf

I would also add that, as a result of playing the game, I got most of the bibliography (I have a thing about mid-Georgian - ie pre-Regency - Great Britain and Ireland), and they are well worth a read; you should be able to get them via the local public library if you don't want to buy them outright.

[Shipka]

They look interesting, but need reworking for the period, I especially like the map idea now have to work out how it would operate with 28mm

[fastolfrus]

Interesting looking rules

[The Gray Ghost]

Those rules do look good I will have to try them out

[Rob_bresnen]

I once found this lovely battle report. Not use if it will help answer your questions but it might provide some inspiration...

Les Miserable the war game!

http://bogdanwaz.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/les-miserables-wargamethe-premier.html

I have had a very similar idea too. I am interested in the answers you get so thank you for posting this thread.

[Rob_bresnen]

I have just had another thought. Songs of Drums and Shakos has a supplement (called more drums and shakos) that has rules for mobs, obsolete fire arms, improvised weapons etc. this could fit the bill nicely if you only want small games. I was planning to use if with my Spanish in the Peninsular war but haven't tried the mob rules out yet. SoDS is a good game system.

[Shipka]

The Les Mis game looks ideal, Students would become Wien Academic Legion......I can see Heinrich behind the barricades!

[Kingscarbine]

Perry Mins and Empress have some great figures for revolutionaries but you'll have to swap or convert the revolvers on the ACW figures.

[Shipka]

Work has started on a Viennese city block

[Kingscarbine]

Nice buildings. Who makes them? I'm also interested in getting some for Vienna and Italian cities.