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Author Topic: How to Game city street fighting for the European revolutions of 1848?  (Read 5074 times)

Offline Shipka

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I need some thoughts about the ideal rule system or if anyone has homegrown rules for mid 19thC street fighting, I am looking at the period 1848-1849, all suggestions most welcome..

Offline Lowtardog

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Are you talking gangs or armed fighting

Offline AdamPHayes

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I have played some enjoyable urban based games of Donnybrook. It balances the superior capabilities of smaller regular troops vs larger militia or civilian mobs quite nicely. Not much to adjust for the differences in the later period either.

Offline Shipka

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Have you got a link to the rule system?

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Offline Baron von Nickedoften

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It's a long time since I've used them, but I do recall some rather riotous games with these many years ago (especially as we managed to find roles that suited everyone's politics).  You would need to adapt them for rifled weapons etc:-

http://www.jimwallman.org.uk/wargame/llm-riotrule%20v2.pdf

I would also add that, as a result of playing the game, I got most of the bibliography (I have a thing about mid-Georgian - ie pre-Regency - Great Britain and Ireland), and they are well worth a read; you should be able to get them via the local public library if you don't want to buy them outright.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2016, 02:35:04 PM by Baron von Nickedoften »

Offline Shipka

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They look interesting, but need reworking for the period, I especially like the map idea now have to work out how it would operate with 28mm

Offline fastolfrus

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Interesting looking rules
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Offline The Gray Ghost

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Those rules do look good I will have to try them out
I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it anymore and what is it seems weird and scary.

Offline Rob_bresnen

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I once found this lovely battle report. Not use if it will help answer your questions but it might provide some inspiration...

Les Miserable the war game!

http://bogdanwaz.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/les-miserables-wargamethe-premier.html

I have had a very similar idea too. I am interested in the answers you get so thank you for posting this thread.
Theres more 28mm Superhero Madness at my blog, http://fourcoloursupers.blogspot.com/
And for Ultra-modern Wargaming check out Hotel Zugando at http://ultramoderngaming.blogspot.co.uk/

Offline Rob_bresnen

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Re: How to Game city street fighting for the European revolutions of 1848?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2016, 11:02:40 PM »
I have just had another thought. Songs of Drums and Shakos has a supplement (called more drums and shakos) that has rules for mobs, obsolete fire arms, improvised weapons etc. this could fit the bill nicely if you only want small games. I was planning to use if with my Spanish in the Peninsular war but haven't tried the mob rules out yet. SoDS is a good game system.

Offline Shipka

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Re: How to Game city street fighting for the European revolutions of 1848?
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2016, 06:43:26 AM »
The Les Mis game looks ideal, Students would become Wien Academic Legion......I can see Heinrich behind the barricades!
« Last Edit: March 25, 2016, 06:49:17 AM by Shipka »

Offline Kingscarbine

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Re: How to Game city street fighting for the European revolutions of 1848?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2016, 05:36:05 PM »
Perry Mins and Empress have some great figures for revolutionaries but you'll have to swap or convert the revolvers on the ACW figures.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2016, 05:37:57 PM by Kingscarbine »

Offline Shipka

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Work has started on a Viennese city block

Offline Kingscarbine

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Nice buildings. Who makes them? I'm also interested in getting some for Vienna and Italian cities.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2016, 09:56:23 PM by Kingscarbine »

 

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