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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #180 on: 15 June 2016, 11:40:08 AM »
Soooo...Snow & co get saved by Littlefinger and FINALLY kill the twat Bolton? Cersei finds herself a huge cache of wildfire under the city and goes nuts against the faith (killing Tommen? Would fulfill the prophecy)?
Looking forwards to episodes 9 and 10...these should be epic. The first 8 were quite dull (apart from some moments). The whole Arya storyline is bit odd and baffling in this season...it just makes no sense. I really hoped Arya turned out to be Jacquen who was testing the waif. But alas...a rather boring and predictable last moments for her in Braavos.
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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #181 on: 15 June 2016, 07:22:20 PM »
Nah, Brandon will use the wildfire agaimst the Nightking

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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #182 on: 15 June 2016, 08:42:01 PM »
Wasn't the big cache of wildfire used during the battle of the Blackwater?
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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #183 on: 15 June 2016, 10:37:21 PM »
Wasn't the big cache of wildfire used during the battle of the Blackwater?

In the books, I think they actually found the wildfire, and it's suggested there are other hidden caches as yet unfound, throughout the city. Can't quite remember how it worked out in the show though....

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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #184 on: 16 June 2016, 03:06:57 AM »
It seems fitting that Qyburn would have secured a good amount for her.  I just remember how airtight Ned Stark thought he had things wrapped up against Cersei in book one...

She may be one of the most terrible people ever, but man, I don't think the High Septon has a chance, really...  o_o

Can't wait for the final 2 episodes! They will probably make us wait until episode 10 to see the conclusion of this storyline though

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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #185 on: 16 June 2016, 06:52:10 AM »
Have anyone heard if they are already planning to go past seven seasons?

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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #186 on: 16 June 2016, 07:00:50 AM »
Have anyone heard if they are already planning to go past seven seasons?


Weiss apparently said during an interview that the show could be down to its final 13 episodes after season six wraps up. It's an unusual number given seasons are normally ten episodes. They have both stated that there is a definite end planned rather than continuing just because it is popular. Perhaps season 7 will be 13 episodes or maybe it'll be ten and then a season 8 mini series of 3 longer episodes? I'm glad to hear they intend to stop at US shows sometimes have a tendency to run until they are unwatchable.  Heroes anyone?

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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #187 on: 16 June 2016, 07:50:18 AM »
Quite of the few series I watch on Amazon are 13 episodes of 45 minutes. Probably not relevant but I thought I'd mention it!  :D
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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #188 on: 16 June 2016, 02:54:48 PM »
I believe there are two more seasons, but at a reduced number of episodes.  I think this is because, even with their massive budget, the scale of what they have left to depict requires a higher per-episode budget. Same overall budget, but more episode with fewer overall episodes. I imagine they will all be on the longer side as well.

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Re: So am I the only one excoted about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #189 on: 18 June 2016, 06:34:52 PM »
Another one of the problems on the TV show is that they've pretty much just skipped over the dragon-magic connection...

A lot of people have said to me, "Yeah but like isn't the Red God the real one because Melisandre can do magic?" and the answer is...

Good heavens! Talking about magic and religion making sense! What is the world coming to?
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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #190 on: 18 June 2016, 06:45:55 PM »
I personally really don't care much about Jon's parentage, or at least I really hope it doesn't actually matter in terms of the larger plot. People obsess about this sort of thing...  I would LOVE it if Martin revealed it, and it had no effect on the story. An interesting little insight into the back stories of some of the characters.... But irrelevant to the present day.


I totally agree with this. Aristocratic lineage, a fine hobby for a previous century. Don't care about it now. Jon Snow bores me so much (he knows nothing!) that I'd be fine if he died at the Wall. (Oh, wait... )

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Re: So am I the only one excoted about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #191 on: 18 June 2016, 06:51:26 PM »
... too much focus on cheap shock thrills - the amount of degradation and rape that female characters have to go through got too much for me.

Compared to what? ...Outlander? ;) (seriously, don't watch Outlander then!)

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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #192 on: 18 June 2016, 10:42:17 PM »
I am note very impressed by episode 8. As usual it has its ups and down but it feels, as many episodes in S6 , inconsistent with the storytelling of previous episodes. I have thought several of the episodes in this season all in all great, but there is some hamfisted writing in the history arches and character development. Some cuts seem quite unnecessary in a story so crammed with threads.

The 'joke cut' in for example. What was the point, or at least *necessary* point?

The surrender of Riverrun was completely unconvincing.

The Brianne-Jaime plotline seems uncharacteristically soppy.


The Arya-FacelessGirl bossfight was not bad but I had hoped for more in that showdown, what with all building up towards it.

I really liked the graphics of the bombardment of Merreen, but the turning up of the Queen was too expected and anticlimactic. I was really hoping for Grey Worm or Tyrion or someone local to straddle on of the remaining dragons and go to town with the slavers.

I liked the Brotherhood without Banners cut and I though the kings distancing form his mother was very good.

Agree with all this.
I have found this season weak so far, with more disappointing or pointless sequences than great GoT moments. I think they have literally as well as metaphorically lost the plot.
This interesting article proposes why: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/jun/13/game-of-thrones-season-six-is-wasting-all-our-time


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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #193 on: 20 June 2016, 01:56:34 AM »
Agree with all this.
I have found this season weak so far, with more disappointing or pointless sequences than great GoT moments. I think they have literally as well as metaphorically lost the plot.
This interesting article proposes why: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/jun/13/game-of-thrones-season-six-is-wasting-all-our-time



Aside from the interesting whittling vs. sculpting metaphor, I found that article largely the same as reading the complaints on the ASOIAF reddit.  That is not to say I disagree, it used to be that The Walking Dead that would make puzzling and frustrating decisions, which I would then contrast with Game of Thrones, a show that was almost completely devoid of them.  These last two seasons have closed the gap there somewhat, although HBO is still a far, far better network than AMC (as well as the gap in achievement level between their respective source material, which really shouldn't even be an insult to TWD) and it shows.  I have found myself wishing for Fargo season 3 (probably my favorite show currently on TV and an excellent watch if you haven't yet seen it) in the midst of the season climax of Game of Thrones, which would have been unthinkable a year or two ago.

I disagree that Riverrun was pointless.  Sometimes, scenes are about the characters, rather than affecting the political plot.  In fact, I'd argue that the Riverrun plotline was far more valuable than Jaime's entire jaunt off to Dorne; it has singlehandedly revived Jaime's character arc and development/redemption, while Dorne "gifted" us with the worst line of dialogue I have seen on TV in a long time, and I watch The Walking Dead.

Also surprised to see as much angst about the Blackfish among the fanbase as there is.  He was rather a minor character, and the difference in his escaping (in book) vs choosing his death (in show) can be traced to a couple important bits of detail that differs from show to book.  In the books, Jeyne Westerling is alive and pregnant; Robb's Kingdom is literally still alive, and contained in Riverrun.  Also, Blackfish is not at the Red Wedding in the books.  OTOH in the show, Jeyne's counterpart and one of the most stupid and puzzling deviations from the books, "Talisa",  ::)  is butchered at the Red Wedding, and Blackfish is present, and flees.  Robb's kingdom is well and truly dead, and his motivations for an honorable death are also a bit more understandable (survivor's guilt).

Now, I'm not saying I think this was a flawlessly executed segment by any means, and I think some of its shortcomings stem from earlier slip-ups (as I outlined above), but overall I don't think it deserves the panning it has received.  The Arya plotline conversely....yeah, not much good I can say on that one.  :?  The director of that episode, Mark Mylod, has directed several of the lowest-rated episodes of the show on IMDB (which are still stupid-high since even meh episodes of GOT have a lot of great elements).  Here's hoping the episode tonight brings the magic back somewhat.

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Re: SPOILER ALERT! So am I the only one excited about a new round of GoT?
« Reply #194 on: 20 June 2016, 04:20:01 AM »
 Having just watched the latest episode Battle of the Bastards i have to say best episode ever.Lots going on and nice to see some action in the big battle pieces.

 Will make for great gaming material too.

 

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