Boshin War List for Sharp Practice 2

[olyreed]

This is very much a work in progress, any I put would be great, when done I will send them to Jose from Bac Ninh miniatures so he can give the thumbs up and send the to too fat lardies

IMPERIALS

Imperial infantry - type - regulars, rifle musket, size 8. Points 9
Formation -always, first fire-yes, controlled volley-yes, crashing volley 2, step out 2, drill 2,
Characteristics
Sharp practice

Imperial new recruits- type-conscripts,rifle musket,size 10, points 8
Formation- always,first fire- yes,controlled volley- first only, crashing volley 3, step out 3, drill 3

 kehitai - type - light infantry, breech loading rifle, size 6, points 14
Formation - yes, first fire- yes, controlled volley- no, crashing volley no, step out 1, drill no,

Characteristics
Sharp practice
Good shoots

Special rule, "the emperors standard"-once during a game if the colours option is taken, for three command cards any unit within 12" of the standard can remove 2 points of shock


SHOGUNATE

Infantry - type- regulars,rifle musket, size 8, points 9
Formation- always, first fire- yes,controlled volley-first only,crashing volley 3, step out 2,drill 3,

Characteristics
Prominent leader

Infantry - type - regulars, muskets, size 8, points 6
Formation- no shock, first fire- yes, controlled volley- first only,crashing volley 3, step out 2, drill 3

Characteristics
Prominent leader

Gakuheitai
Type- light infantry, breech loading rifle, size 6, points 15
Formation- yes, first fire - yes, controlled volley - no,crashing volley- no,step out 2, drill- no

Characteristics
Sharp practice

Shinsengumi
Type-tribe, size 10, points 5
Formation- yes, step out 1,
Characteristics
Stubborn
Moveable dip
Aggressive
Tomahawk

Cavalry

Lancers, type- scouting cavalry, lance, size 8, points 7
Formation- always, step out 2, drill 3
Characteristics
Tally Ho

The rest of the list can be used for both sides

Samurai
Type clan, size 8, points 7
Formation- always, step out 1,
Characteristics
Stubborn
Moveable do
Aggressive
Tomahawk

Ashigaru/hand weapon troops
Type- wallahs, size 10, points 4
Formation- yes, step out 3,
Characteristics
Moveable do
Surely

Mounted samurai
Type- impact cab, size 8, points 9
Formation- yes, step out 2,
Characteristics
Tally Ho
Aggressive
Stubborn

Artillery
Size 5, points 7/8/9
First fire- yes, controlled volley- yes,step out 2, drill 3

[OSHIROmodels]

I'm still getting to grips with the rules but I would suggest a unit strength of ten for the conscripts 

cheers

James

[olyreed]

I will change to 10, not sure how this affects the points value though,

do i need to include for ashigaru/samurai armed with muskets/matchlocks

also, mentioned on the tfl forum, samurai/ shinsengumi get the tomahawk characteristic as in the french indian war list 

[OSHIROmodels]

I think including the samurai/ashigaru is a good call and possibly units of 12 for the ashigaru and eight for the samurai.

cheers

James

[olyreed]

I think including the samurai/ashigaru is a good call and possibly units of 12 for the ashigaru and eight for the samurai.

cheers james,

with the Samurai as clan and ashigaru as wallahs, they all get 12 in the rule book, but i know you can adjust the amount.
with less figures they would be quicker to reach excess shock, this would mean trying to be a bit more careful with them.
with the movemable dp they can get closer to the enemy though and protect them from long distance firing, lots to think about.

I will look into putting the list into an excell document and link it here

[olyreed]

Changes made to size of Samurai unit (, new recruits Imperials(10).
Added Tomahawk to Samurai, mtd samurai and Shinsengumi

[rokurota]

I'm working in this, but at the moment can say a few things:  
Numerical superiority of the Shogun army was due to the traditional troops (samurai, ashigaru) of loyal clans to Bakufu Tokugawa, so I suggest that only are used by Shogun's side.
I would put the special rule "emperors standard" on a scenario, but dont as a general rule.

[olyreed]

Thanks Jose, did think about limiting the samurai/ashigaru to bakufu . Will do it if no one else can give me a good reason not to. Scenario based on the emperors standard would be good. Will check the points values later in week. Any other suggestions welcome.
If we can get this done then we can move onto doing a British/combined western invasion list

[rokurota]

I will sent you the list with a few modifications, but I think that we need work more on the army list.
I would like to see Gakuheitai & Denshutai as regulars.

[olyreed]

Maybe option as light infantry in line as well as skirmishers. Was the shinsengumi better than samurai. Might be worth sending to James and getting a third opinion, the lists are looking good. I have a game in a couple of weeks and will give the list a go

[rokurota]

Shinsengumi were an elite corps accustomed to fight on the streets of kioto,  samurai very long time of peace without fight

[commissarmoody]

This is pretty cool, was this list ever sent on to TooFatLardies?

[rokurota]

This is pretty cool, was this list ever sent on to TooFatLardies?

https://toofatlardies.co.uk/blog/?p=5955

[commissarmoody]

Thanks for the link.