*
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
April 28, 2024, 08:45:46 AM

Login with username, password and session length

Donate

We Appreciate Your Support

Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 1690932
  • Total Topics: 118359
  • Online Today: 704
  • Online Ever: 2235
  • (October 29, 2023, 01:32:45 AM)
Users Online

Recent

Author Topic: Seeking Details on British Para's  (Read 1835 times)

Offline 6milPhil

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 4794
    • Slug Industries
Seeking Details on British Para's
« on: September 28, 2016, 08:22:28 PM »
I'm just starting on WW2 para's and despite having a couple of reasonable books I've a few questions I've yet to find the answers for, if anyone could answer them I'd be grateful.

Loads for gliders - I've five Horsa and two Hamilcars, now I know the Hamilcars can take a Tetarch light tank, or two Carriers/Jeeps, and Horsa up to two jeeps.

Is it fair to say I could swop out a carrier/jeep for a 6 pounder?

Also once the vehicle spaces are taken how many men can I squeeze aboard aside from the pilots?

Same with the Horsa, know I can get one jeep in each - can I get one carrier instead? And again how many troops, aside from pilots, once the vehicle slot is taken?

Chutes and drop cannisters - I've had a natter with chums and there was mention, but nothing definite, of different coloured chutes. Which colours are troops chutes, and were different colours used for supply cannisters? Also which colour are the cannisters and did they vary?

Thanks in anticipation.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2016, 10:06:58 PM by 6milPhil »

Offline fred

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 4383
    • Miniature Gaming
Re: Seeking Details on British Para's
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2016, 08:36:24 PM »
Its a while since I read up on this.

But I think very few troops beyond the driver and an assistant went with the vehicles - not least because of the danger of landings. But I could be wrong, because I don't recall the recce troops landing separately from their vehicles.

I'm pretty sure carriers couldn't go in Horsas. The airlifted troops had fairly few carriers - most were logistics ones at HQ.

But generally I wouldn't worry about this too much. The gliders are so big that even in 6mm they take up a lot of table, and you probably don't want them represented 1:1. Also rarely were the glider landings under fire (the Polish gliders at Arnhem being an obvious exception).

Chute colours - this seems to be mentioned often for canisters, but without definitive answers. I wonder if it varied by operation?

Offline fred

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 4383
    • Miniature Gaming
Re: Seeking Details on British Para's
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2016, 08:55:09 PM »
Had a look in a book (well a couple) and didn't find too much. But did find that the Recce troops dropped by parachute while the jeeps came in by glider. Which to me certainly suggests that troops didn't travel with the vehicles, if even the recce troops didn't.

Offline tin shed gamer

  • Supporting Adventurer
  • Scatterbrained Genius
  • *
  • Posts: 3346
Re: Seeking Details on British Para's
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2016, 09:05:29 PM »
Drop me a PM.
Mark.

Offline 6milPhil

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 4794
    • Slug Industries
Re: Seeking Details on British Para's
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2016, 09:25:37 PM »
I'm pretty sure carriers couldn't go in Horsas. The airlifted troops had fairly few carriers - most were logistics ones at HQ.

Chute colours - this seems to be mentioned often for canisters, but without definitive answers. I wonder if it varied by operation?

Sorry I wasn't clear enough, I know carriers can't go in Horshas, too wide I think.

The general idea we had was that cannisters had different coloured chutes depending on content, one for amoo, one for rations, etc.

Had a look in a book (well a couple) and didn't find too much. But did find that the Recce troops dropped by parachute while the jeeps came in by glider. Which to me certainly suggests that troops didn't travel with the vehicles, if even the recce troops didn't.

That would simplify things, I found a couple of links which might suggest it was either/or, but also suggest combinations, I quite like the idea of giving a player a choice of loadouts. I'd imagine at least the driver would be with them...

http://worldwar2headquarters.com/HTML/normandy/airborneAssault/horsa.html

http://worldwar2headquarters.com/HTML/normandy/airborneAssault/hamilcar.html

Drop me a PM.

Sent.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2016, 09:28:15 PM by 6milPhil »

Offline Truscott Trotter

  • Mad Scientist
  • Posts: 839
Re: Seeking Details on British Para's
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2016, 12:33:23 AM »
If you haven't already seen this it is one of the best sites I have found for Brit Airborne
http://arnhemjim.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/british-1st-airborne-division-vehicle.html

Offline Aaron

  • Scatterbrained Genius
  • Posts: 2350
Re: Seeking Details on British Para's
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2016, 12:23:06 PM »
Cornelius Ryan's "A Bridge Too Far" mentions a lot of this info in anecdotes sprinkled through the book.

Offline 6milPhil

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 4794
    • Slug Industries
Re: Seeking Details on British Para's
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2016, 04:03:48 PM »
Thanks guys.

If you haven't already seen this it is one of the best sites I have found for Brit Airborne
http://arnhemjim.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/british-1st-airborne-division-vehicle.html

That's very good and a plethora of similarly realted links - thanks.  :)

Offline Truscott Trotter

  • Mad Scientist
  • Posts: 839
Re: Seeking Details on British Para's
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016, 12:00:02 AM »
No worries specifically you might want to look at
http://arnhemjim.blogspot.com.au/search?q=parachute+containers
where it has

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
5 Replies
2964 Views
Last post January 07, 2008, 03:16:15 PM
by poulppy
3 Replies
1460 Views
Last post September 13, 2012, 10:27:35 AM
by old smokie
3 Replies
1529 Views
Last post September 01, 2014, 05:47:47 AM
by pocoloco
6 Replies
2316 Views
Last post January 12, 2016, 05:55:39 AM
by Harry Faversham
1 Replies
1026 Views
Last post January 23, 2016, 08:34:13 PM
by tin shed gamer