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Author Topic: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Aug 8th)  (Read 106954 times)

Offline DintheDin

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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Nov 17th)
« Reply #555 on: November 17, 2020, 02:31:08 PM »
Nice sculpts, impressive job!
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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Nov 24th)
« Reply #556 on: November 24, 2020, 06:26:59 AM »
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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Nov 24th)
« Reply #557 on: November 24, 2020, 08:31:15 AM »
Nice. I really like your bold painting style - every miniature oozes with character.
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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Nov 24th)
« Reply #558 on: November 24, 2020, 09:23:27 AM »
Sublime brushwork as ever Steve.  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 5th)
« Reply #559 on: December 05, 2020, 06:50:44 AM »
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Offline Atheling

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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 5th)
« Reply #560 on: December 05, 2020, 08:47:21 AM »
15mm Romans from Khurasan

Superbly deft brush work on some of the very best in 15mm  :-* :-* :-*

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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 5th)
« Reply #561 on: December 05, 2020, 09:21:14 AM »
Random question.. do we know ifvRomans marched in step?
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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 5th)
« Reply #562 on: December 05, 2020, 01:22:55 PM »
Yes they did.  The miles are Roman miles (0.92 miles or 1.481 km)

At the beginning of their training recruits must be taught the marching step. They will only learn to march
quickly and in time if they practise continuously. And so they must complete a march of 20 miles in
5 hours at normal marching speed. When they march at a faster speed they must complete a distance of 24
miles in the same time.
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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 5th)
« Reply #563 on: December 05, 2020, 01:33:28 PM »
Yes they did.  The miles are Roman miles (0.92 miles or 1.481 km)

At the beginning of their training recruits must be taught the marching step. They will only learn to march
quickly and in time if they practise continuously. And so they must complete a march of 20 miles in
5 hours at normal marching speed. When they march at a faster speed they must complete a distance of 24
miles in the same time.
Vegetius, 1.9

Not really what I asked. This talks about speed, but no indication they marched in step.

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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 5th)
« Reply #564 on: December 05, 2020, 05:24:47 PM »
Not really what I asked. This talks about speed, but no indication they marched in step.

I am sorry you think that.  You asked if they marched in step and Vegetius indicates that they did - they marched in the Roman Military Step. 

If want a specific answer it does help to be precise.  What you asked was vague as it covers some 2000 years of history from the founding of Rome to the fall of Constantinople.  Neither did you specify whether you were asking about drill on a parade ground. marching on a route march or tactically in battle.  From what you now say I think you actually meant "cadenced step".

There is an astonishing number of books, academic papers in journals, Doctorate theses in University libraries, larger reference libraries and some are available online.  Some are free some charge a fee.  They cover Roman drill, marching songs, military music, pay, religion, marriage, recruitment, training and almost every aspect of the Roman Army (and navy).  I found one on the colour of horses in Roman Britain.  In addition the Romans (not all were military men) wrote a lot about military operations though no actual drill manuals have survived they are referred to in many other sources. 

A good starting point is "The Complete Roman Army" by Adrian Goldsworthy (one the best authorities on the Roman Army) which has a very useful bibliography. 

Happy research!  You will find the answer and also gain a great insight into the fascinating Roman military and the many and varied opinions of the academics.




Offline Shahbahraz

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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 5th)
« Reply #565 on: December 05, 2020, 11:02:00 PM »
I have Goldsworthy, a range of other books on the Roman army, and a huge number of Academia articles downloaded over years.

I simply can't remember any reference to whether Romans marched in step. So I asked for a reference to that. You haven't (so far) given one. I appreciate you saying 'do your own research' - but I thought someone on here might be able to point me to the specific reference. You can't or won't. Cool. 

But don't assume I haven't looked, or assume I haven't got a library of well over 1000 books on Ancient Warfare from all sorts of authors.

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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 5th)
« Reply #566 on: December 06, 2020, 08:43:01 AM »
Since you mention him Goldsworthy Page 80 " Basic Training" for a reference.  Though no footnote, regrettably.

You might like to ask your question on the "Age of Myths, Gods and Empires" board for a more complete answer.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2020, 09:29:16 AM by dadlamassu »

Offline War In 15MM

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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 5th)
« Reply #567 on: December 14, 2020, 02:55:13 AM »
Absolutely beautiful work!

Offline Deano

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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 25th)
« Reply #568 on: December 25, 2020, 06:28:30 AM »
15mm Mongol/Timurid etc - Expendable Captives from Khurasan

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Re: Deano's Dark Age / Medieval figures (Updated Dec 25th)
« Reply #569 on: December 25, 2020, 09:07:41 AM »
15mm Mongol/Timurid etc - Expendable Captives from Khurasan

Amazing Steve. I have to assume that a 15mm child has to be at tops 10mm...... such superb detail  :-* :-* :-*

 

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