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Author Topic: Warlord Panther and Marder III  (Read 1403 times)

Offline pease1

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Warlord Panther and Marder III
« on: December 31, 2016, 05:42:33 AM »
Not as nice as Queeg's models, but good enough for my table:



More photos on my blog here: http://ajs-wargaming.blogspot.com/2016/12/28mm-panther-and-marder-iii.html

Offline Captain Blood

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Re: Warlord Panther and Marder III
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2016, 09:57:15 AM »
They look very nice indeed.
How do you like the Warlord kits? Have you tried any Rubicon kist yet? And if you have, how do you find they compare?  :)

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Warlord Panther and Marder III
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2016, 12:37:17 PM »
Richard,

You'll find the Warlord Games kits to be about on par with Rubicon, detail wise but they are definitely less well engineered and more fiddly to build. On the whole I prefer Rubicon but Italeri/WL produce some items that Rubicon don't and some that are more accurate, like their Pzkpf III. Others like their M-8 Greyhound are less accurate than Rubicon. They both match well for size/scale at least the models I have making mixing the two a viable option.
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Offline Captain Blood

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Re: Warlord Panther and Marder III
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2016, 01:04:13 PM »
Okay, thank you :)

(I think you probably gave that same feedback before, in the thread I started on 'which 1/56 scale AFVs?' - but I do like to keep asking, to check how other people feel about the relative merits of the different manufacturers, now that I've actually started to build and paint some of the little blighters...  ;))

Offline Phil Robinson

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Re: Warlord Panther and Marder III
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2016, 01:14:36 PM »
More than good enough, a nice finish indeed.

Offline Westfalia Chris

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Re: Warlord Panther and Marder III
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2016, 03:56:46 PM »
I haven't had the opportunity to build the same vehicle from both companies, but I recently did a Rubicon Panzer III for a friend and a Warlord Panther A and SdKfz 251 D.

In direct contrast, I found the Warlord vehicles much more simplified, especially the Panther running gear was a disappointing combination of lack of detail and poor fit. The Rubicon Panzer III went together marvellously, with the most egregious issues being some clunky designs of parts that would probably have been too fiddly or not robust enough for the gaming purpose. The overall impression is excellent, though, especially with the much better designed running gear. The Rubicon one is far more refined than both the Warlord Panther's and Hanomag's.

In general, the whole affair convinced me to stay with 1/48 "scale" kits for WW2, purely for personal taste, mind, in how the larger 28mm figs look next to the vehicles and in that the detail is finer. A Tiger is borderline, and I do consider my Tamiya Tiger I to be borderline huge.

But for ease of assembly, detail and design, I would generally recommend the Rubicon models over most Warlord kits I've seen so far.

Offline Queeg

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Re: Warlord Panther and Marder III
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2016, 08:49:25 PM »
.... but good enough for my table:

Actually really good matey, and nice blog too!  Lots of nice stuff to look at in there ...........

cheers
Brent

Offline Sir_Theo

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Re: Warlord Panther and Marder III
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2016, 08:57:29 PM »
Beautiful.  I must buy myself a Marder,  such a cool looking little thing

Offline pease1

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Re: Warlord Panther and Marder III
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2017, 05:29:34 AM »
Thanks for the kind words everyone.

More on the painting table at the moment.

 

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