late 15thC Germans (new picture added 27 march 17)

[shrubs]

Absolutely lovely painting, especially like the Swabians. Looking forward to more!

[bluechi]

Nice herladic paints of Knoeringen and Koenigsegger hope to see more.

[hallmarkFPS]

Nice herladic paints of Knoeringen and Koenigsegger hope to see more.

well spotted that man! the other chap is (if my research is correct) Johann von Sonnenberg, truchsess of Waldburg.



cheers
Steve

[tomrommel1]

the italians are really stunning

[bluechi]

what comes next ? Fuerstenberg ? or some early Landsknechts ?

[Ragnar]

Johann von Sonnenberg, truchsess of Waldburg.

That livery is stunning.

[Elrak]

Fantastic miniatures and also a very interesting theater of war. 

If I may add a little side note:
One of the oldest votive paintings in German language was made due to this conflict. One man at arms, Ludwig Klingkhammer, was gravely wounded by a shot from a Falkonett (= culverine). He ascribed his survival to the help of the Virgin Mary and the Simon of Trient (allegedly killed in an ritual murder in 1475) and therefore donated a painting.
I only found two sites in the internet linking a image of the painting: LINK 1 & LINK 2

[Corso]

Awesome models!

[hallmarkFPS]

Fantastic miniatures and also a very interesting theater of war. 

If I may add a little side note:
One of the oldest votive paintings in German language was made due to this conflict. One man at arms, Ludwig Klingkhammer, was gravely wounded by a shot from a Falkonett (= culverine). He ascribed his survival to the help of the Virgin Mary and the Simon of Trient (allegedly killed in an ritual murder in 1475) and therefore donated a painting.
I only found two sites in the internet linking a image of the painting: LINK 1 & LINK 2

That is an awesome painting, i have not seen that before, thanks for sharing. Judging by the painting I guess his horse did not survive! what a great name "Klingkhammer" I will have to paint him at some point!

Cheers
Steve

[hallmarkFPS]

what comes next ? Fuerstenberg ? or some early Landsknechts ?

Well i have quite a few more knights/ man at arms finished. I plan to do 2 large blocks of early Landsknechts of arounf 50 figures each, before i get round to them i have some crossbowmen and halbadiers to do!
But before all that i need to finish some commission work....

cheers
Steve

[bluechi]

Sounds nice. But sure that you want to play so many foot knights ? The most of them fought on horse or as officers in the gewalthaufen.

[Elrak]

what a great name "Klingkhammer" I will have to paint him at some point!

I am looking foward to see (t)his miniature!

Tried to get a little bit more information about him but only found out, that there was an official of the same name in Vienna around 1490.
For the time around 1450 I found two other Klingkhamer (father and son) who served the imperial city of Augsburg as mercenaries, for example in the First Margrave War, but later turned against this city and others in Swabonia in a feud. If there are ties to the one mentioned above I cannot say...the name was spelled in many different names and all the feuds and wars in the late medieval holy roman empire seem to be a bottomless pit. 

[bluechi]

Found a little bit in the regasta imperii.Ludwig Klingkhamer gives Maximillian the Information that the turks wins a battle against croats and that 5000 croats dies.altough that he fought in the battle of calinao where he is wounded.thats the picture.but i search this night....hope to find there castel or something like that.

nothing found . The Family is not listed. No founds in the swabian,austria,frankish or bavarian Knight list...and in the regasta imperii i found a text to the picture that he was not a man from tyrol. So it could be that he was an son of a rich family. why rich ? he had the money to let paint a Picture and worn a half armour and fight on horse.

family name klingkhammer : Klinge (word for knife or sword) , hammer...the same in english. it can be translate as armourer

using Google with Adelsgeschlechter and than the area you want....like Schwaben etc.

[hallmarkFPS]

Sounds nice. But sure that you want to play so many foot knights ? The most of them fought on horse or as officers in the gewalthaufen.

According to my sources for the battle i am concentrating on, there were only 200 German cavalry compared to the 1200 Italian. So I wanted to show a few of the characters fighting on foot. More importantly i love the Perry minis foot knight box set and i just needed an excuse to paint some more 

I will probably only be doing one unit of mounted knights/men at arms for the Germans. At the moment I am trying to workout how to base them, as I read somewhere that the Germans fought in a deeper formation, like a wedge. Sadly i cannot now find my source anywhere...

cheers
Steve

[bluechi]

The Landsknecht fought in deeper Formation thats right. The first rank had the longest pikes and the second and following had different lenghts and heads....(~1520-?)
the mounted Knights where the first with Lances and the second with easy weapons...and flanked with crossbows.
But the tactic and equipment changes...i think for the first years ,the Landsknecht Gewalthaufen looks like the swiss....lot of helbards in the center and around of them the pikes.

search in Heereswesen der Neuzeit tomorrow for more informations.