Mick Farnworth Painting Guides - German Book - small update p10

[Mick_in_Switzerland]

@wrgmr1  
Dear Thomas
The colours of the German camouflage patterns varied a lot especially late war as they had problems getting fabric and printing inks.
Also there were many factories too.  Anything usable was accepted by the army.

I think it is a colour variant of Sumpfmuster 43





Regards

Mick

[wrgmr1]

Thanks Mick!

That's what I surmised, but I'm not an expert in any way. Sometime in the future I will be painting some of these for the 21st Pz.

Cheers,
Thomas

[Mick_in_Switzerland]

Dear Thomas,

 I checked the books and found a picture on your mystery garment.  It is on page 38-40 of Daniel Peterson's book Wehrmacht Camouflage Uniforms. 
It is a variant on the colours od Sumpfmuster 43.

Regards

Mick

[wrgmr1]

Thanks Mick!

[Mick_in_Switzerland]

I have started to update the guides.

Here is a link to the LAF Survey about Popular WW2 Scales
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=97736.0

Here is the LAF Survey about WW2 Paint Ranges
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=98976.0

Here is a thread about List of Popular WW2 German Miniatures
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=98109.0

I have bought nine kits of 1/35 figures from Dragon, Masterbox and Airfix.  
I have built twenty eight figures which cover German Uniforms from 1939 to 1945 and I have started to paint them.  
This allows me to create the colour lists for each uniform.

Here is a work in progress shot of my painting desk

[Daryl]

I do appreciate anyone who takes the time to upload and share there knowledge for the benefit of us all.... been using your guides for years and even though I have adapted everything for my own style and use ak interactive paints, guides such as yours were a tremendous help.

20mm ab

[Mick_in_Switzerland]

Dear Daryl,

I have seen your work with Pea Dot and Oak Leaf and am a great admirer.  I have also seen that your method for Pea Dot is much better than the one I proposed many years ago.  I actually painted a Dragon 54mm figure using your method ten days ago.

I plan to feature excellent painters in the updated guides, so I am looking for pictures that I can include.  I will PM you with more details.

Regards

Mick

[Elk101]

Daryl, that's impressive brushwork.

[redzed]

I do appreciate anyone who takes the time to upload and share there knowledge for the benefit of us all.... been using your guides for years and even though I have adapted everything for my own style and use ak interactive paints, guides such as yours were a tremendous help.

seriously impressive painting 

do you have a guide as they are just outstanding?

[Mick_in_Switzerland]

Daryl's awesome Pea Dot Tutorial is here
http://www.guildwargamers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=43458

And here are more pictures of his figures
http://www.guildwargamers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=31848&start=150

[ARKOUDAKI]

Thanks for the links Mick....Daryl does indeed have a good approach to doing this and I will follow suit! As I previously mentioned, a lot of paint makers aside from AK also do Waffen SS camo, like Mig/AMMO, Andreas, ScaleColor 75 and LifeColor. Hence, I hope you include these in your revised painting guides.

[Mick_in_Switzerland]

Dear ARKOUDAKI ,

I created a poll to look at Paint brands.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=98976.0

There is an overwelming majority who use Vallejo Model Colour, so that will be the main reference.

I will make equivelants lists and will probably include Vallejo Game Colour, Citadel, Revell, Tamiya and Army Painter.
That will already give six references.  Even that will depend on being able to get reliable equivelance data from the brands.
After that there are at least another 20 or so other brands each of whom appear to have a small group of followers.

Regards

Mick

[ARKOUDAKI]

Hi Mick,

As you know, I love your painting guides and find them really useful points of reference. Also, if you look on page 2 of your painting poll you will see I did offer my same advice before  However, as your poll shows, most people stick with the Vallejo stuff these days. My reference to the other ones is because like AK, a lot of manufacturers are producing camo sets these days and I people tend to go for them. Just a suggestion. I know you can't cover them all and Vallejo is a pretty good starting point.

Looking forward to seeing your updated references! Keep up the good work mate!

[Mick_in_Switzerland]

I have no objection to having AK as an alternative.  
However, I also know from past experience that it is difficult to get accurate cross match lists.

There are lots of lists on the Internet but the accuracy is, to say the least, variable.
I don't want to put my name to something that is not reliable.

I have found that you need to see the actual paints side by side.  
The best is to paint them onto a piece of card and compare them when they have dried.

If I go out and buy the colours so that I can check properly, this rapidly becomes very expensive and time consuming.

This project to update the painting guides will take at least a year.  
If I start colour matching several brands, the work increases significantly.

[ARKOUDAKI]

Mike, I sent you a PM to try and help you on this huge project of yours!