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Offline Wargamer Dave

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Fiddly or Fine?
« on: February 03, 2017, 09:33:38 PM »
Was looking at Victoria Miniatures not-Cadian laydees:

http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/arcadian-rifles-squad-female

Are these fiddly or not too terrible to assemble with super glue?


Offline the commissar

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2017, 10:32:37 PM »
I must admit I really struggled to put them together (I never seemed to have a problem with ForgeWotld) and they have gone back into the lead (resin) pile.

Offline Hobby Services

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2017, 10:52:14 PM »
Is there a "plastic welder" model glue that will work on the resin they used?  Something like Plastruct Bondene, but for resin?

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 12:37:26 AM »
Unless it's injection molded polystyrene - I don't think any of the plastic solvents will work.

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 01:28:41 AM »
I didn't have much trouble using VM components with Wargames Factory plastics, though some of the parts are very fine and fragile. Never done a full mini from VM parts, but I've seen a few ANZAC guard platoons that seemed pretty well fitted. May be worth checking out the "WargamerAU" internet forum for reviews.

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2017, 12:23:29 PM »
These are all in resin, so you need superglue or 2-part epoxy glue to assemble them.

I don't think they look too bad assembly-wise, although I can see getting the two-handed lasguns-and-arms parts onto the body being a fiddly pain. I also haven't seen many armies made of Victoria's models around the internet either, so maybe other people are also put off by the assembly?

I guess if you don't mind pinning they should be simple (if somewhat labour-intensive) to build securely. Personally, I'd be tempted to get a loose fit between the arms and body via a bit of filing, glue with a couple of dabs of thick superglue, pin through the shoulders into the body once the glue is dry, and then tidy up with a little bit of Milliput (which you can smooth under a warm tap before it fully cures to avoid filing it smooth afterwards). That way you get the fit/pose via the loose fit and thick glue, the pins hold it securely in place, and the putty gives you that nice finish. I'd do this assembly-line style to a few squads though!

What puts me off is actually the price (£30 plus shipping per squad, plus the inevitable Customs spanking!) given the numbers I'd likely need for even a smallish IG-style army.  :?


Offline Momotaro

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2017, 02:51:15 PM »
Loctite "All Plastics" glue is my go-to for resin models.  You get a tiny tube of very strong superglue, and a surface-prep felt-tip pen.

You scribble over the surfaces to be joined with the pen, wait about 1 minute for it to dry, then use the glue.  Works every time.

If you apply the glue too soon, it hardens into a white blob on the mini and in the nozzle.  Easily scraped off, but be patient.

The pen also works with normal superglue once you've run out of the supplied glue.

Expensive but great stuff, and it works on all soft (polyethylene?) 1/72 plastics as well.


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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2017, 09:09:50 PM »
+1 for Loctite for resin. Didn't know about the felt-tip pen trick - thanks.
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Offline Momotaro

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2017, 09:24:25 PM »
+1 for Loctite for resin. Didn't know about the felt-tip pen trick - thanks.

It'a single product, you get the pen and the glue together in a blister under the product nane "Loctite All Plastics".  I wouldn't try it with an ordinary felt-tip pen.

Offline Wargamer Dave

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2017, 09:39:13 PM »
Just put an order in for it - looking forward to testing it out! Thanks for the recommendation.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Y3LHXW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Offline von Lucky

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2017, 09:39:32 PM »
Googled it, can easily get it here. No swearing will be directed at you when a model falls apart on the table ;)

Offline Hobby Services

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2017, 11:31:35 PM »
It'a single product, you get the pen and the glue together in a blister under the product nane "Loctite All Plastics".  I wouldn't try it with an ordinary felt-tip pen.

Interesting.  Wonder if there's some kind of accelerant in the ink?

Offline Momotaro

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2017, 11:23:04 AM »
Googled it, can easily get it here. No swearing will be directed at you when a model falls apart on the table ;)

You can drop in for a refund next time you're passing ;)

Offline Momotaro

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Re: Fiddly or Fine?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2017, 11:25:44 AM »
Interesting.  Wonder if there's some kind of accelerant in the ink?

I think it does more than that - it must provide some kind of chemical or physical "key" on the plastic.  Superglue doesn't work on soft plastics, and this combination does.

 

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