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Offline AKULA

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Re: Building San Fransisco Chinatown, anno 1901
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2024, 04:11:15 PM »
Just found this thread - will watch with great interest your progress!

Funnily enough I'm using those beads in my Star Wars project as pots...so many uses  :)

Plenty of practical suggestions on terrain building on this thread - the point about a mockup to test gameability is a good one

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Offline NickNascati

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Re: Building San Fransisco Chinatown, anno 1901
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2024, 01:30:55 PM »
I don’t know if paper buildings are an option, but The Virtual Armchair General offers several blocks of Chinatown in its Mean Streets collection.  Nicely detailed buildings.

Offline Gelrir

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Re: Building San Fransisco Chinatown, anno 1901
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2024, 05:23:43 AM »
I've got a copy of "Victorian San Francisco:  The 1895 Illustrated Directory"; it's a 1996 reprint of the illustrations of a period directory. Most pairs of pages show drawings of one side of a particular block; below each illustration is a list of the commercial or official locations in the buildings shown. Unfortunately, it only extends north from Market Street to about Washington Street ... so about a block or two before Chinatown.

Offline Carpathian

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Re: Building San Fransisco Chinatown, anno 1901
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2024, 10:34:12 PM »
Ran across this on YouTube from 1903, interesting street scenes.   Although mostly of Market St and Union Square it looks like, the newer and grander parts of the city.   Chinatown grew up around Portsmouth square, one of the first settled areas after USA took possession.   Rather plain brick buildings from the pictures.   Actually it doesn't look much different than Old Sacramento, the well preserved riverfront  area of the state capital, a steamboat trip from SF.

https://youtu.be/lx6km37pC3U?si=FtgCWmxz83UsbFbR

Offline FifteensAway

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Re: Building San Fransisco Chinatown, anno 1901
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2024, 04:41:41 AM »
Nice find Carpathian. 

I checked up on what the event was and it was a visit to San Francisco by President Theodore Roosevelt.  Helps explain all that "Sunday best" attire and all those ladies 'big hats' and all the bunting and flags (45 stars if accurate).  Not so sure it looks like Old Sac (live near and been many times, just two days ago in fact) but it does look a lot like downtown (about 10 blocks from Old Sac as we call it) Sacramento 40-50 years ago - just without the more modern bits.  Striking how similar the buildings under construction look to construction today.

Now, what was the cameraman riding?  Not a cable car, swerving around traffic too easily.  And no horse out front.  My guess is a very early 'horseless' carriage.  First cross country trip by automobile, supposedly, started from San Francisco a week or two after this event so makes sense - and I spotted two horseless carriages in first minute and a half coming towards the camera in the lanes to the left (right hand side drivers).  What ever it was, got some looking over by some, especially by some riders in backs of vehicles, one youth in particular. 

I wonder how long that man high up on that pole was up there - and did he get in trouble when he climbed down?
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Offline Carpathian

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Re: Building San Fransisco Chinatown, anno 1901
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2024, 04:55:46 PM »
I thought it might be an Independence Day parade.   But TR visiting explains it.     There's another film from 1906 traveling down Market St, with automobiles in the picture.   Cameras had to be hand cranked, so skillful filming.

Portsmouth square views.   DuPont Ave is uphill and behind the buildings.   

As for the particular block of iniquity being modeled, uphill/ right, it's now a public housing project.   Streets haven't changed much, but no cribs, mahjongg parlors or opium dens anywhere!

https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=Portsmouth_Square:_The_Plaza

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Re: Building San Fransisco Chinatown, anno 1901
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2024, 09:03:03 PM »
Impressive video! I particularly love how the street is being shared by bicycles, horse-drawn carriages, early automobiles, and pedestrians.  :-* :o

Looking back into a vanished world...or mostly vanished! lol

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Offline FifteensAway

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Re: Building San Fransisco Chinatown, anno 1901
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2024, 09:13:00 PM »
And the video gives solid evidence for why I'm including 'street sweepers' in my Old West setup; someone has to clean up behind all the horses - seemed to be one almost every block, though with rather softer bristles than I'd expect on their brooms.

 

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