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Author Topic: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.  (Read 2060 times)

Offline cuprum

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Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« on: April 09, 2017, 03:54:29 AM »

















Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2017, 05:18:25 AM »
Nice find! Fortunately for me I have just such a gun for my collection of partisans. Now I need to do a conversion for the crew.
Em dezembro de '81
Botou os ingleses na roda
3 a 0 no Liverpool
Ficou marcado na história
E no Rio não tem outro igual
Só o Flamengo é campeão mundial
E agora seu povo
Pede o mundo de novo

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2017, 05:26:23 AM »
I see in the photo 1 an officer or sergeant, apparently an artilleryman from the regular army (probably from the military units that were surrounded in 1941), one paratrooper (judging by the helmet), and two civilians.

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2017, 08:11:49 AM »
Is the tank French?

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2017, 08:16:29 AM »
Yes. The German army used captured French tanks in Russia.

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2017, 07:57:16 PM »
These are wonderful photos, thanks so much for posting them.  Really interesting subject matter.

I see three towed guns in the last picture which I cannot identify.  The two smaller ones look like Czech 47mm of the sort mounted on the Panzerjaeger I.  I have no idea about the one with the larger shield.

Can anyone identify these guns for me?

Thanks un advance.
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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2017, 08:57:40 PM »
Left hand (from viewers side), the larger one is the Czech 47mm KPÚV vz. 38. Yes, that's the gun fitted to the Pzjgr I. It's missing the muzzle brake.

The other two look like the 37mm KPÚV vz. 34, another Czech weapon. The muzzle break being the giveaway. I've seen examples of those in Peru and IIRC they had one in the Bogotá military museum in Colombia.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2017, 09:00:30 PM by carlos marighela »

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2017, 04:36:31 PM »
I will add another interesting photo to the collection.



The anti-tank cannon of the partisan detachment "For the Soviet Motherland" of the partisan brigade named after Chkalov. February 1944.

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 03:09:06 PM »
Very odd looking device.

I assume there is some "spade" arrangement at the back (my guess is two planks of wood) otherwise it will be demonstrating Newton's third law of motion ^__^.

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 03:29:32 PM »
I see a conventional artillery gun, that has removed wheels. It is installed on a peasant sledge for the convenience of moving through deep snow in the forest. I think that the problem of Newton's third law is solved in the standard way. But to use ordinary roads for partisans was sometimes quite problematic, they had to look for options for moving guns off-road.

By the way, their opponents also looked for a way to increase their patency in deep snow:

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 03:48:06 PM »
I will add another interesting photo to the collection.



The anti-tank cannon of the partisan detachment "For the Soviet Motherland" of the partisan brigade named after Chkalov. February 1944.

You could model that with the left overs from the PSC gun set if it does not use the original trails.

Still looks odd.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 03:51:01 PM by Ultravanillasmurf »

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2017, 03:51:46 PM »
Would that flak cannon be fired in situ, or off loaded?

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2017, 04:00:28 PM »
For those who want to model - the image of a peasant sledge:





« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 04:02:38 PM by cuprum »

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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2017, 04:08:28 PM »
It seems - they shot straight from the sled.



Here is another "invention" of the partisans.


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Re: Rare photos. Artillery of the Soviet partisans.
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