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Title: Oh yes….. Napoleon by Ridley Scott
Post by: Digits on July 12, 2023, 09:22:57 AM: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BpyYG0LRBrQ
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Post by: black hat miniatures on July 12, 2023, 09:40:19 AM: As pointed out by a friend - at 1.13 in the cavalry charge everyone is left handed!

Looks good

Mike
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 12, 2023, 09:57:37 AM: It looks very entertaining 8)
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Post by: vtsaogames on July 12, 2023, 11:45:09 AM: When Joaquin Phoenix first appeared in Gladiator, I thought, my, he looks more like Napoleon than anyone else I've seen on screen except perhaps Brando. might have to give this a look. NAh, definitely give this a look.
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Post by: vtsaogames on July 12, 2023, 01:42:01 PM: Joaquin looked more like him when younger. Josephine was a few years older than Napoleon.
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Post by: has.been on July 12, 2023, 04:59:32 PM: Looks sumptuous, & David, they nearly have as many French troops as you do. lol lol lol
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Post by: Digits on July 12, 2023, 05:11:43 PM: It’s be a low budget then! 😝
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Post by: Inkpaduta on July 12, 2023, 06:00:09 PM: This isn't going to be in theaters right. This is on Apple + or is Apple + filming it for the big screen?
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Post by: Cubs on July 12, 2023, 06:46:56 PM: If I can keep telling myself it's for entertainment, not for accuracy, I think I will enjoy that.
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Post by: aphillathehun on July 13, 2023, 12:20:51 AM: Just watched the trailer....

Remind me, just out of curiosity, where can I get Front Rank napoleonics these days?
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Post by: Digits on July 13, 2023, 11:39:24 AM: Quote from: Inkpaduta on July 12, 2023, 06:00:09 PM
This isn't going to be in theaters right. This is on Apple + or is Apple + filming it for the big screen?

Cinema release in November then exclusively on Apple thereafter.

Front rank minis on Gripping Beast I think.
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Post by: Ray Rivers on July 13, 2023, 03:34:12 PM: Quote from: Cubs on July 12, 2023, 06:46:56 PM
If I can keep telling myself it's for entertainment, not for accuracy, I think I will enjoy that.

Yep.
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Post by: MiniPigs on July 15, 2023, 12:30:24 PM: It's a trap!
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Post by: Patrice on July 15, 2023, 02:55:14 PM: Cannot be worse than Christian Clavier. :D

(https://tv-programme.com/pic/episodes/12/129398.jpg)
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Post by: vtsaogames on July 16, 2023, 03:02:01 PM: All accuracy quibbles aside, I will be on line for tickets in the theater.
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Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on July 16, 2023, 04:41:27 PM: Me too…let’s just hope it doesn’t depict something like medieval amphibious landing craft and hidden scraps of Magna Carta in a Saxon tomb!
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Post by: olicana on July 16, 2023, 06:58:01 PM: Who's playing Pauline Bonaparte?
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Post by: peleset on July 18, 2023, 11:24:40 AM: I look forward to seeing Napoleon storm the Great Redoubt chewing bubblegum and kicking ...!
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Post by: Greystreak on July 18, 2023, 04:00:30 PM: Quote from: olicana on July 16, 2023, 06:58:01 PM
Who's playing Pauline Bonaparte?

It could only be Salma Hayek or Eva Green. :P
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Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on July 21, 2023, 12:11:45 AM: Hayek or Greem…man, it would be hard to say which would be best. tag team?

I expect that the man who did “The Duelists” is going to treat the subject well.
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Post by: vodkafan on July 21, 2023, 06:55:33 PM: Quote from: olicana on July 16, 2023, 06:58:01 PM
Who's playing Pauline Bonaparte?

Surely only Mila Kunis can play this part
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Post by: Harry Faversham on March 14, 2024, 07:45:21 PM: Just watched this tripe again on Apple, forgot how dire it was first time around!
>:(
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Post by: Cholmondely Percival IV on March 14, 2024, 08:04:51 PM: Did you really have to remind us of its existence?
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Post by: dickiegranthum on April 06, 2024, 02:45:52 PM: Quote from: Harry Faversham on March 14, 2024, 07:45:21 PM
Just watched this tripe again on Apple, forgot how dire it was first time around!
>:(

Indeed - took me the better part of two days to finish it, just kept walking away lol
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Post by: The Dozing Dragon on April 06, 2024, 03:05:40 PM: I lasted about 30 minutes... my ex wife would have said that was good for me lol
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Post by: Cubs on April 06, 2024, 03:12:41 PM: Quote from: The Dozing Dragon on April 06, 2024, 03:05:40 PM
I lasted about 30 minutes... my ex wife would have said that was good for me lol

Was it because you couldn't think of another film?
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Post by: dickiegranthum on April 07, 2024, 06:40:34 AM: Quote from: Cubs on April 06, 2024, 03:12:41 PM
Was it because you couldn't think of another film?

Perhaps a documentary about the husbandry of Welsh sheep? lol
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Post by: olicana on April 21, 2024, 05:01:30 PM: I actually paid top dollar to see this piece of, whatever. Fortunately, I was watching it in a boutique cinema and after an hour, in dire need of brain bleach, I was able to pop out to the foyer and buy a bottle of red and a straw: Unfortunately, a brain stain remains.

I just hope Spielberg's effort is going to be better - it would be hard not to be.
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Post by: Redshank on April 22, 2024, 05:26:10 PM: Finally watched this on a plane last week. It really is as bad as everyone says.
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Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on April 22, 2024, 05:34:42 PM: Watching it on a plane destroyed the few good things it offered in terms of photography, costumes and sets. I found it was worth the 2£ I spent on it at a matinee—-in which a free cup of tea and biscuits was included for the price of admission. lol
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Post by: vtsaogames on April 22, 2024, 06:28:22 PM: Quote from: olicana on April 21, 2024, 05:01:30 PM
...I just hope Spielberg's effort is going to be better - it would be hard not to be.

Is he working on one?

Edit: I see, a 7-part TV series for HBO based on Kubrick's unfinished project. Hmm.
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Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on April 23, 2024, 07:30:45 AM: Quote from: vtsaogames on April 22, 2024, 06:28:22 PM
Is he working on one?

Edit: I see, a 7-part TV series for HBO based on Kubrick's unfinished project. Hmm.

This has been kicking around for a while. Most of what I have read makes it sound like it is happening but there is scant detail, which makes me think it probably isn't. :'(
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Post by: Cubs on April 23, 2024, 09:31:45 AM: Quote from: Redshank on April 22, 2024, 05:26:10 PM
Finally watched this on a plane last week. It really is as bad as everyone says.

I'll bet some people still walked out.
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Post by: Pattus Magnus on April 23, 2024, 03:50:10 PM: “I'll bet some people still walked out.” lol lol

That’s quite the statement about how bad the movie is! I haven’t seen it yet, and probably won’t.
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Post by: has.been on April 23, 2024, 05:08:18 PM: Quote
I haven’t seen it yet, and probably won’t.

Oh you must see it...why should we be the only ones to suffer? lol
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Post by: CapnJim on April 23, 2024, 05:21:37 PM: Quote from: has.been on April 23, 2024, 05:08:18 PM
Oh you must see it...why should we be the only ones to suffer? lol

Yeah - misery loves company - I don't think i could stand a 2nd viewing, though...
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Post by: Pattus Magnus on April 23, 2024, 06:58:06 PM: Are the uniforms at least plausible? I get hung up when a movie or series set in a “historical” period completely ignores what folks actually wore in the time period. That godawful King Arthur movie with Kiera Knightly, for example… I’m not sure that I am up for the masochism OG putting up with enormous plot holes if the visual spectacle doesn’t compensate a bit.
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Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on April 23, 2024, 08:21:49 PM: Quote from: Pattus Magnus on April 23, 2024, 06:58:06 PM
Are the uniforms at least plausible? I get hung up when a movie or series set in a “historical” period completely ignores what folks actually wore in the time period. That godawful King Arthur movie with Kiera Knightly, for example… I’m not sure that I am up for the masochism OG putting up with enormous plot holes if the visual spectacle doesn’t compensate a bit.

There are a few visual gems in the movie. The uniforms and sets are great. I think they did the Coup of 18 Brumaire well. The battles are awful. I don't understand how many film critics found the battles to be "epic". None were particularly exciting (except, perhaps the battle at Toulon) and most completely ignored Napoleonic formations and tactics.
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Post by: Pattus Magnus on April 24, 2024, 03:29:04 AM: “ The uniforms and sets are great.” That’s something, I suppose. The movie sounds like a lost opportunity, though. They had a massive budget, high profile cast, and then couldn’t be bothered to pay attention to the historical content. I don’t get that - it’s not like a crew of competent historical advisors would cost anything like what one of the star actors was paid. I can only assume that they didn’t think the audience is sophisticated enough to grasp a historically accurate plot. Given that film critics found the battles epic, maybe that’s justified.
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Post by: Harry Faversham on April 24, 2024, 05:43:28 AM: The battle scenes were pretty dire. Some of the scuffles in Sharpe are more 'epic'!
:(
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Post by: Fitz on April 24, 2024, 05:45:11 AM: Are you suggesting that Napoleonic battlefield tactics didn't consist of two crowds of men running at each other in disorganised mobs?
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Post by: Cholmondely Percival IV on April 27, 2024, 04:53:58 PM: Quote from: Pattus Magnus on April 23, 2024, 06:58:06 PM
Are the uniforms at least plausible? I get hung up when a movie or series set in a “historical” period completely ignores what folks actually wore in the time period. That godawful King Arthur movie with Kiera Knightly, for example… I’m not sure that I am up for the masochism OG putting up with enormous plot holes if the visual spectacle doesn’t compensate a bit.

I haven’t seen King Arthur but I recall an interview with Kiera Knightly in which she discussed an idea she’d had for increasing her character’s historical accuracy, which wasn’t adopted. It entailed her being naked in a battle scene, apparently to distract her opponents and facilitate her killing them.. More research is needed in this area, I feel.
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Post by: Cholmondely Percival IV on April 27, 2024, 04:55:25 PM: Quote from: Cubs on April 23, 2024, 09:31:45 AM
I'll bet some people still walked out.

Some didn’t even bother asking for a parachute.
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Post by: The Dozing Dragon on May 01, 2024, 10:12:02 PM: I attempted to persevere last night... it did not last long...
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Post by: dickiegranthum on May 03, 2024, 02:03:53 AM: Quote from: Cubs on April 23, 2024, 09:31:45 AM
I'll bet some people still walked out.

So… twist this handle, pull in, and I’m out the door! Glad I read the pre-flight pamphlet!
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Post by: dickiegranthum on May 03, 2024, 02:04:55 AM: Quote from: The Dozing Dragon on May 01, 2024, 10:12:02 PM
I attempted to persevere last night... it did not last long...

Took me all day to get through it. It truly is awful.
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Post by: olicana on May 03, 2024, 05:39:15 PM: Quote from: dickiegranthum on May 03, 2024, 02:04:55 AM
Took me all day to get through it.

It's going to take even longer than that to get over it. I'm still coming out in cold sweats.
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Post by: Cholmondely Percival IV on May 03, 2024, 06:15:03 PM: The consensus appears to be that this may not be one of Sir Ridley’s better efforts?
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Post by: Patrice on May 03, 2024, 08:38:16 PM: I still haven't seen the film. Some small bits I've seen have attracted my curiosity but I could not believe it was real, it seems so ridiculous.

OTOH I've seen comments on internet of some French ultra-nationalist Napoleon admirers, who seem utterly outraged, that could let me to have some indulgence. lol lol
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Post by: Basementboy on May 03, 2024, 10:24:30 PM: To be fair we’ve had some great historical films over recent years, I think we can allow Hollywood this slip-up :)
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Post by: Harry Faversham on May 04, 2024, 09:36:02 AM: By the time it got to Waterloo, I thought it couldn't get any worse, I was wrong! The Little Man in the funny 'at gads about skewering people with his sabre. When he knocks off at snap time, there's a fat bloke stood behind him, gnashing his teeth and scowling. It's not till it all goes tits up that this clown bellows his only line...

"Come and see how a Marshal of France dies!"

:o
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Post by: DaveCrow on May 05, 2024, 12:54:34 PM: My dear wife fell asleep during our line and only watch. She was the lucky one.

Wasn't Napoleon supposed to be possessed of great charisma? We got a petulant sulker with the charisma of wet cardboard.

If you haven't seen Napoleon yet do your self a favor and go watch Star Wars: The Phantom Menace instead. It is truly the more enjoyable experience.

We didn't quite get the massed cavalry charge down a steep hill into massed pikes that Perter Jackson gave us. That at least you could follow what was happening. Instead we got, god only knows what confused mess.