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Title: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 16 March 2009, 07:45:32 PM
Long promised, here are some pics of my F&IW table, with the mid-game reconstructed (with a little artistic licence for the camera), as ferocious indians close in from all sides on the doughty defenders of Stockett’s Fort.

There are around 60 attacking figures and 30 defenders in play. The woodland indians are all by Redoubt. The plucky redcoats are by Front Rank, supplemented by a few Foundry pirates playing the part of settlers because I haven’t got round to painting my Redoubt settlers yet. Although all the rest of these I painted about 3 years ago.

The central buildings are by Grand Manner – I plan to add a couple of the more recent Grand Manner Americas range which I will buy at Salute.

Enjoy  ;)



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Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: BaronVonJ on 16 March 2009, 07:55:14 PM
sweet!
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Calimero on 16 March 2009, 08:09:55 PM

WoW!  :-*
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Mad Carew Snr on 16 March 2009, 08:27:03 PM
Superb - I'm obliged to take my hat off to you sir
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Bugsda on 16 March 2009, 08:38:25 PM
Superb! Painting and scenics done with style and panache, I can almost hear Clannad warbling in the background :-*
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Ray Rivers on 16 March 2009, 09:09:52 PM
A drunken blue Indian!  Gads!   :o

Very, very kewl.

A lot of work there, beautifully done!
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Driscoles on 17 March 2009, 06:26:52 AM
Captain !

Your painting style is extraordinary. The figs look awesome. Especially the natives.

Björn
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Doc Twilight on 17 March 2009, 07:03:46 AM
Beautiful work, mate. Mind if I ask what rules you were using? I like BaB for F&I myself, but realize it's not everyone's cuppa.

-Doc

Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: dodge on 17 March 2009, 07:19:08 AM
Thats a great battle scene Cap'n

Well painted and very cinematic

dodge
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Wolf 359 on 17 March 2009, 07:29:19 AM

  Pretty spectacular!! This is what FIW gaming is all about.

Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: gamer Mac on 17 March 2009, 08:24:58 AM
WOW :o :-*
Lovely indians. Some cracking colours and some cool shirts.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Malamute on 17 March 2009, 08:25:05 AM
Very nice. I 've always admired those Snapdragon rock formations, they work particularly well for North America too.Excellent painting as well. :)
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Orctrader on 17 March 2009, 09:40:38 AM
Fantastic.  Just fantastic  :o
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Galman on 17 March 2009, 11:56:18 AM
A stunning job on all of it!  Just wonderful to look at, makes you feel like you are right there in the midst of the battle.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 17 March 2009, 07:45:33 PM
Thanks all - great to get such lovely feedback. I plan to expand this collection somewhat in the coming months, and will post pics of the new pieces as I get through them - which will probably be in the summer now...  :?



Mind if I ask what rules you were using? I like BaB for F&I myself, but realize it's not everyone's cuppa.


Doc, I use my own home-grown variant of the old classic Kill Zone rules - the original Future Wars skirmish ruleset, which I have freely adapted to all manner of non-Future Wars eras. It's just a great, simple, brutal system. And it's free. I have a deep personal loathing of most commerical rulesets which always seem to be fat, glossy 100 page books of mind-bending over-complexity, and for which you are expected to buy loads of supplements. I find a 10 page ruleset with a one page summary sheet makes for a much more enjoyable game  ;)

For anyone who's interested, you can grab the original Kill Zone rules for free here - http://www.mts.net/~gisby/kizo/killzone.htm

You will see that the basic system is easily adaptable to other periods and weapon technologies - you just need to change some of the terms for something more 'in period'.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Helen on 18 March 2009, 02:02:37 AM
Nice work CB!  8)

I love the rock formations and will know doubt purchase some from the company for my own projects.

Thankyou for sharing this lovely attractive battle.

Helen
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Hitman on 18 March 2009, 02:17:15 PM
Great looking figures and terrain. The painting on your figures is top notch. I did notice that these particular Indians who are attacking the settlers can't be very intelligent...did you see the crazy looking skulls hanging on the war and roof of the house??  What are the native people thinking??  lol

Thanks for sharing...great looking tabletop
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: MuleSkinner on 19 March 2009, 09:34:23 AM
 :o :o :o
a stunning looking table with beautifully painted miniatures.........what more could a wargamer ask for.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: dodge on 19 March 2009, 09:41:30 AM
It's really good , but I forgot to ask who won ?

dodge
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Galman on 19 March 2009, 01:02:55 PM
Thanks for the link for the rules.  Im going to be slowly building my Old West minis and while I got the RulesWNN, I will try this as well, and see how it works.  Cant wait to see more, when you can get the minis.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 19 March 2009, 07:53:17 PM
Thanks all.  :)

Dodge - the indians won.
The perimeter was too long to hold, and had too many gaps. So although the last of the defenders were holed up in the stockade by the time we finished, the rest of the station was overrun and 75% of the defenders were dead!
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Galman on 19 March 2009, 11:35:07 PM
Yikes  :o  Throw the women and children out the door and make good your escape from the back windows!  Just kidding.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Wolf 359 on 20 March 2009, 01:26:43 AM

  Who manufactures the blockhouses and fortifications?

Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Doc Twilight on 20 March 2009, 06:00:51 AM
Thanks all - great to get such lovely feedback. I plan to expand this collection somewhat in the coming months, and will post pics of the new pieces as I get through them - which will probably be in the summer now...  :?



Mind if I ask what rules you were using? I like BaB for F&I myself, but realize it's not everyone's cuppa.


Doc, I use my own home-grown variant of the old classic Kill Zone rules - the original Future Wars skirmish ruleset, which I have freely adapted to all manner of non-Future Wars eras. It's just a great, simple, brutal system. And it's free. I have a deep personal loathing of most commerical rulesets which always seem to be fat, glossy 100 page books of mind-bending over-complexity, and for which you are expected to buy loads of supplements. I find a 10 page ruleset with a one page summary sheet makes for a much more enjoyable game  ;)

For anyone who's interested, you can grab the original Kill Zone rules for free here - http://www.mts.net/~gisby/kizo/killzone.htm

You will see that the basic system is easily adaptable to other periods and weapon technologies - you just need to change some of the terms for something more 'in period'.

Any chance I could get you to send me a copy of your F&I variant, Cap?

Thanks for the info, in any case. I'll definitely check them out. I had seen Killzone in passing, looked interesting. Will have to look again.

-Doc


Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 20 March 2009, 08:58:05 AM

  Who manufactures the blockhouses and fortifications?



The blockhouse/stockade and cabin are made by Grand Manner - they have a large and ever expanding 'Americas' range. http://www.grandmanner.co.uk/shop/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=74&strPageHistory=cat

The barricades are just slung together barrels, tables etc, mainly from Frontline Wargaming's Three Musketeers accessories sets. http://www.frontlinewargaming.co.uk/25period.html



Any chance I could get you to send me a copy of your F&I variant, Cap?

-Doc


Sure. Actually, they are adapted for pirates, but they work fine for F&IW  ;)
PM me your email address and I'll whizz them over to you.

Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: jet on 20 March 2009, 11:42:25 AM
absolutely superb models and terrain!  I like how you've got a mixed variety of trees, I assume collected over the years.  It always looks so much more realistic than 50 of the exact same tree.  I need more trees.

J
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Admiral Benbow on 20 March 2009, 01:35:33 PM
Ahhh, four days not looking at the LAF - and another great setup by the Captain!

Marvellous.

 :-*
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Overlord on 21 March 2009, 10:56:42 AM
Great stuff Cap'n.  :-*  A beautiful table as per your usual high standard.  8)
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 21 March 2009, 11:07:15 AM
Thanks chaps.
Coming from excellent miniature terrain artists such as yourselves, that's very much appreciated  :)

Alas, all the terrain and buildings here were bought off the shelf.
But I do aspire to a truly scratchbuilt table up to the superlative standards of 'Geezer-town' or the gold-mine...

One day maybe. When I retire  ;)
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Conquest on 22 March 2009, 03:26:54 PM
Great looking game Captain. Completely wrong Miniature manufacturer lol to use, but great looking just the same.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 22 March 2009, 04:50:34 PM
Great looking game Captain. Completely wrong Miniature manufacturer lol to use, but great looking just the same.

Thanks, I'm afraid to say I started in with the Redoubt range shortly before you started producing your range   :(

Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: fastolfrus on 22 March 2009, 07:01:57 PM

Any chance I could get you to send me a copy of your F&I variant, Cap?

-Doc


Sure. Actually, they are adapted for pirates, but they work fine for F&IW  ;)
PM me your email address and I'll whizz them over to you.



Just to jump on the bandwagon, could we ask for a set too please ?
PM sent
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 22 March 2009, 09:28:15 PM

Just to jump on the bandwagon, could we ask for a set too please ?
PM sent


Certainly. The missiles are in the air  ;)
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: garyapsledene on 22 March 2009, 10:55:22 PM
They are just amazing, the detail in paint is fantastic!
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Galman on 22 March 2009, 10:57:02 PM
Sent you a pm as well Captain, those rules would be sweet.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: garyapsledene on 22 March 2009, 11:00:48 PM
Please could you send me the rules as well?

Just amazing and inspiring
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Barry S on 23 March 2009, 04:54:06 AM
Simply brilliant  :-*

Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 23 March 2009, 04:33:37 PM
Please could you send me the rules as well?


No probs. Will try to do this evening.

Just to reinforce that they are C18th-ised Kill Zone rules adapted for pirates - but they work fine for F&IW too.  ;)
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Galman on 23 March 2009, 06:47:57 PM
Thanks for the rules Cpt.  Though they are scripted for more of the BP era, Im addapting them for Western/Goth games.  My friend and I are currently making up a game board, loosely styled from the Dark Tower book series meets SP/Western.  Only good times lay ahead.  Thanks a ton!
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Le matou rouge on 30 March 2009, 01:57:28 PM
I'm very late here, but it worth it anyway  ;D :-* ;D :-*

Thank you very much, Captain, for this eye-candy-feast !

 :o,
Matt
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Galman on 30 March 2009, 03:31:30 PM
Its never to late to see beautiful work like that.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 30 March 2009, 04:38:05 PM
Ah, you boys are too kind  ;)

I am sorry, le Matt, that the only thing missing from my French & Indian Wars table is the French. Allez les bleus! (Or was it les blancs in those days?)

C'est la vie.

Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: JollyBob on 30 March 2009, 05:00:42 PM
Blimey O'Reilly, you do like 'em colourful don't you Cap'n?  :o

This is a fantastic set up, I am insanely jealous. I admire your dedication to actually finish terrain pieces.  :)
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: HerbyF on 30 March 2009, 05:09:53 PM
Just wanted to say that is a beautiful game. I wouldn't be too concerned about using pirates for your civilians. I swap figures from pirate ranges and others in this period too. It all depends on how the figure looks. Civilian dress for Europeans in this period doesn't differ much in the colonies. About the only difference between pirates & other colonial civilians is that pirates are less likely to wear foot wear & might have some brighter colors. Other wise not much difference on average.

Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Le matou rouge on 31 March 2009, 06:26:17 PM
I am sorry, le Matt, that the only thing missing from my French & Indian Wars table is the French. Allez les bleus! (Or was it les blancs in those days?)

C'est la vie.


I prefered them missing than be spanked as the last time they appeared on the field against the Reds (or was it the whites in Twikenham ?)    lol

C'est la vie, certes, but the chariot always "swing low, swing chariot" !

Oh, the shame,
Matt
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 31 March 2009, 07:24:00 PM
Ah, but Matt, I was in the crowd at Twickenham for the semi-final of the Rugby World Cup in 1999, when France turned around a lost cause with an inspired performance to send the All Blacks out of the competition with their tails between their legs.

I never thought to hear 70,000 Englishmen (including me) roaring 'allez les bleus' and 'vive la France' at the tops of their voices, but I heard it that day. One of the more extraordinary but inspiring things I've ever seen.  :)
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Le matou rouge on 31 March 2009, 07:26:53 PM
Ah, but Matt, I was in the crowd at Twickenham for the semi-final of the Rugby World Cup in 1999, when France turned around a lost cause with an inspired performance to send the All Blacks out of the competition with their tails between their legs.

I never thought to hear 70,000 Englishmen (including me) roaring 'allez les bleus' and 'vive la France' at the tops of their voices, but I heard it that day. One of the more extraordinary but inspiring things I've ever seen.  :)

 :o :o :o

STOP MAKE ME JEALOUS  !   >:( :( :'(

meow,
Matt  ;)
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Langlade on 20 September 2009, 12:18:53 PM
Excuse me
I'm  new on this forum and I discover your beautiful pictures and miniatures.
I've read all the posts and I wonder if you'll send me the KZ rules adaptations you've made.
I'm a FIW fan and I'm always looking for a set of rules that suit me.
Soory for my english, I'm a french player ("Allez les Bleus!"...)
Merci baucoup
au revoir
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Captain Blood on 20 September 2009, 07:12:02 PM
Sure.
PM me your email address and I will send through to you.

 :)
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Galloping Major on 24 September 2009, 01:02:29 PM
Great stuff as usual mate, could I add my name to the list for your rule variants too, as I've been looking at various sets.

Excuse my ignorance, but what are BaB rules? I get confused with acronyms once in a while, having absorbed far too many.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Barry S on 24 September 2009, 01:30:41 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but what are BaB rules? I get confused with acronyms once in a while, having absorbed far too many.

These are a set of ACW skirmish rules called Brother Against Brother with varients for the F&IW, AWI amoungst others.
There's a good review here: http://www.deepfriedhappymice.com/html/rd_brother_against_brother.html

Easy to pick up and play. They're not everyones cup of tea, but I like and use them for my ACW games. I have found them particularly good to introduce younger gamers at our club to historicals.

Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 24 September 2009, 03:13:03 PM
These are a set of ACW skirmish rules called Brother Against Brother with varients for the F&IW, AWI amoungst others.
There's a good review here: http://www.deepfriedhappymice.com/html/rd_brother_against_brother.html

Easy to pick up and play. They're not everyones cup of tea, but I like and use them for my ACW games. I have found them particularly good to introduce younger gamers at our club to historicals.



They are a lot of fun and give a good quick game. We've used them for Napoleonic Peninsular War in the past and they worked very well.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: itchy on 24 September 2009, 06:51:57 PM
Hi just to say the terrain and painting are superb and on the subject of simple but fun rules I have used these when I've not wanted to use my usual rules (this very ground)

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/skarlet/mohicans/mohicans.html

based on the day lewis film but a good game especially using the conquest LOM figures.  :D
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Barry S on 25 September 2009, 06:45:31 AM
They are a lot of fun and give a good quick game. We've used them for Napoleonic Peninsular War in the past and they worked very well.

Gluteus Maximus, have you ever tried or heard of 'Chosen Men'?
They seem very similar in style to BAB: http://uk.geocities.com/oculus1999/
There are some scenarios available for these rules but I'm sure they could asily be adapted to BAB: http://uk.geocities.com/oculus1999/cm.html#rules
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 25 September 2009, 09:01:45 AM
Gluteus Maximus, have you ever tried or heard of 'Chosen Men'?
They seem very similar in style to BAB: http://uk.geocities.com/oculus1999/
There are some scenarios available for these rules but I'm sure they could asily be adapted to BAB: http://uk.geocities.com/oculus1999/cm.html#rules

Barry,
no I haven't. I have to admit I haven't played BAB for a couple of years, but those rules do look interesting. Short and Simple is always good. I'm a real rules junky and can't resist grabbing a set and reading it, even though I may never play it, so thanks for the info.

That's a website I'd never heard of either, with lots more interesting stuff, so thanks for the link too :D
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Galloping Major on 25 September 2009, 12:51:28 PM
Thanks Barry, I'll take a look at those  8)
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 10 November 2011, 01:38:12 PM
OH...MY...GOD!!!

What have we done starting F&IW ... this is fantastic!
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Marine0846 on 11 November 2011, 03:00:11 PM
H.M. Stanley,
Thanks for a great reminder about Captain Blood's wonderful F&I War figures and setup.
I think that his setup is what we all would like to have and play on.
Makes me want to get out my guys (not close to being as well painted and some about 20 plus years old)
to have a go.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Lemurcat on 14 November 2011, 08:46:31 PM
Thanks for the rules Captain Blood, your figures and terrain look fantastic.
Title: Re: Cap'n Blood's French & Indian Wars Battle
Post by: Hubbynz on 15 November 2011, 03:25:35 AM
Great board and lovely painting on the minis.