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Other Stuff => General Wargames and Hobby Discussion => Topic started by: Chris Steadman on 03 January 2018, 05:16:30 PM
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On the night of 1st/2nd January my good friend and well known hobby painter Steve Dean had his studio broken into and many things stolen in what appears to have been a targeted burglary.
Could Lead Adventurers please keep a look out for the stolen items, on Ebay, on FB selling groups, at the bring and buy at shows etc etc. IF you have any information please let Steve know, or me and I will pass the info on.
As you can imagine Steve is finding it hard to remember everything that has gone but here is a list that he has put together ...
" Cannon EOS1200 camer with a decent macro lens added and the standard lens that came with it. It will stand out because looking through the veiw finder it looks like the lens has been badly scratched (big dark lines), but it's just were I screwed up cleaning one of the mirrors (takes great pics as you've seen)
2 sets of War Medals from my Grandads. Standard service medals plus one having the Italian medal the other having the greek medal and a 3rd royal tank reg cap badge.
28mm
REAPER - too many to list from all of their ranges. Some in blisters, some in bags
RACKHAM - again too many to list, again some in blisters and some older ones in bags. The ones in bags have the code number written in pen on the bag.
There was some of the big older trolls and the goblin set with the deep sea diver and pirate types (can't remember what it's called)
Games Workshop - Older Empire figures of all types. 40k vahallens Warhammer Quest Character boxes.
Citadel - Some really old pre-slotta Elvish Cavalry and foot/mounted chaos knight sets stand out, but again too many to list, Clerics, Wizards etc you know the type
Lots of other stuff that I'll have trouble listing, you know how it is. I'll add stuff as I remember
15mm
FOW two big box sets for vietnam , the US one has boats and infantry, the Veitcong also has boats, civilians and classic Vietcong. 2 Huey Helipcoters in 'speciall order' boxes
FOW the newer plastic infantry sets, Russian, German and British. Some resin tanks - all nations. Some LRDG stuff. Small box of Free french Inf+ a gun, the German/Partizan set with the dog handlers etc.
Essex, hundreds of them. Mainly Medievals - Polish, Hungarian, Crusades, Arabs, Ottomans. Also, Babylonians, Boars, Zulu war brits.
Khurasan - Various Sci-Fi film related figures
Again Lots of other stuff from Blue Moon, Rebel Minis that might be unusual to see over here.
A few random kits
Also stupid things like my glue gun and all my reading glasses.
and a whole bunch of Heroclix plastic pre painted figure which would fill 2 standard supermarket carrier bags."
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That's terrible news. >:(
Insured?
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Gah, that pisses me right off. I'll put the word out.
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That is really crap. If you could possibly list some of the more rare items especially the Rackham stuff then it may be easier to track down. Especially if they are being sold cheap.
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It sounds like they knew what they were doing, and then maybe not. The stolen items are rather ecclectic, and to me it sounds like they knew something was to be had at your friend's house, but they had no clue as to what exactly. The camera and boxed minis are obvious, but reading glasses and a glue gun?
Sounds like a junkie got word that miniatures are valuable, but does not know his Clix from a Preslotta and just took what looked valuable and convenient.
I hope you will recover as much of your mutual possessions as possible, but to be honest, I don't give it much hope. But obviously we'll keep an eye out. :)
Yes, rotten luck.
I'm not sure the vaguest and generic nature of the item descriptions is really going to help.
But I'll keep an eye out for a used glue gun, some 'random kits', various sci fi items from Khurasan, and 'lot's of other stuff that [he'll] have trouble listing', etc.
You just don't see those kinds of things around much...
I'm sure the local scene of crime officer really appreciated the precise nature of the listing, and I'm equally sure it will result in it all flooding back in.
Doesn't make it any fairer of course.
Ho hum.
Nice... :-[
Might it occur to you that perhaps this was written in the moment? I'm sure a more detailed and specific listing is in the works.
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Initially any list was better than no list. I believe Steve is trying to put together a more specific list.
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Yeah, sounds like it's a junkie who's probably just gonna scrap them.
Real shame, though. I hope he had insurance. A friend of mine lived in shared accommodation, had a room mate kick down the door, steal all his stuff and leave (he was being evicted anyway) and the police did literally nothing about it.
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Yes, rotten luck.
I'm not sure the vaguest and generic nature of the item descriptions is really going to help.
But I'll keep an eye out for a used glue gun, some 'random kits', various sci fi items from Khurasan, and 'lot's of other stuff that [he'll] have trouble listing', etc.
You just don't see those kinds of things around much...
I'm sure the local scene of crime officer really appreciated the precise nature of the listing, and I'm equally sure it will result in it all flooding back in.
Doesn't make it any fairer of course.
Ho hum.
What value is there in making such a sarcastic, negative comment, other than to make yourself feel important and superior. People like you who exploit the ills of others like this in order to pump up their own ego need to seek help.
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Yes, rotten luck.
I'm not sure the vaguest and generic nature of the item descriptions is really going to help.
But I'll keep an eye out for a used glue gun, some 'random kits', various sci fi items from Khurasan, and 'lot's of other stuff that [he'll] have trouble listing', etc.
You just don't see those kinds of things around much...
I'm sure the local scene of crime officer really appreciated the precise nature of the listing, and I'm equally sure it will result in it all flooding back in.
Doesn't make it any fairer of course.
Ho hum.
Humakt, you're a perfect asshole!
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That is really awful. Check all the usual places car boot sales , money converters that sort of stuff.
It is quite hard to give a definitive list of what we have collected. I know I couldn't do it especially just after being burgled. But guess not as perfect as some folk.
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Humakt, you're a perfect asshole!
Maybe he's roleplaying the character he's named after.
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Maybe he's roleplaying the character he's named after.
lol lol lol lol lol
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Yes, rotten luck.
I'm not sure the vaguest and generic nature of the item descriptions is really going to help.
But I'll keep an eye out for a used glue gun, some 'random kits', various sci fi items from Khurasan, and 'lot's of other stuff that [he'll] have trouble listing', etc.
You just don't see those kinds of things around much...
I'm sure the local scene of crime officer really appreciated the precise nature of the listing, and I'm equally sure it will result in it all flooding back in.
Doesn't make it any fairer of course.
Ho hum.
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Shit Chris, that's a shame :(
Good luck getting anything back but I wouldn't be optimistic.
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Indeed it is! I am really angry about this as there were so many old figures he will not be able to replace :(
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Very, very sorry to hear this. Sincerest sympathies Steve :(
At least it sounds like it was mainly unpainted stuff that was stolen? Some of it will be hard to replace I know, but painted figures are really irreplaceable.
Let's hope they catch the culprits.
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Sorry to hear this, hope Steve is okay
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That's horrible. Some people are really mean. Hope they catch the culprits and Steve gets his stuff back.
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Very sad to read of this news. Best wishes in finding the villain.
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Shared on a variety of FB trading groups.
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This is awful, I always take stock in the fact that your average billy burglar won’t know about the value of my miniatures / RPG collection :?
Proves it’s not entirely safe. Hope the items turn up.
It’s always worth taking photographs of your collection to assist police and for insurance purposes just in case. Would be doubly useful for a tread like this too.
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:(
Just spotted Steve's post on the FB group. Really sad to hear.
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That's rotten luck. Sorry to hear that.
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Wow, that hurts. Better have a tv or so stolen than things that really go to your heart for 30+ years :'(
Hope S.D. will get his stuff back ( as said before, dunno if there's been painted stuff nicked, that's the hardest to repalce, the rest is replacable but will cost a pretty penny and probably 2 or 3 lifetimes to replace them ).
Sad...
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Best of luck to one of the best.
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Steve's robbery aside for a moment. Can anyone explain why a burglar would take minis? Heavy, delicate and easily damaged, hard to fence and being realistic not very valuable n the scheme of things robbed from houses.
I have always wondered as about every 3 or 4 years you get a thread like this about someone being robbed.
Probably think they're a valuable metal that can be melted down (like copper etc) or have been told that they're worth a lot of money and don't quite understand how.
Burglars aren't smart. My friend that got robbed had a £20 booze bottle stolen but not his £400 guitar.
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I have always wondered as about every 3 or 4 years you get a thread like this about someone being robbed.
I've wondered about the same thing, yes.
And considering that LAF only represents a (very) small portion of the worldwide miniature crowd, the actual numbers will no doubt be much higher.
A complete army in its cases weighs a ton, is fragile, bulky and like you said; hard to move. So what motivates these idiots to especially nick miniatures is beyond me.
Oh, obviously, it's greed, but you need to be very into miniatures to really know what you stole, and I just can't believe that anyone knowing the scene would think they could get away with either passing off the stolen miniatures as their own or flogging them (unless they were unpainted and still in their packaging).
The other option is that they think they can score an easy buck by selling it at a pawn shop or something like that, and actual retail value of the average painted army (depending on subject I reckon) will not be worth the trouble.
If my miniatures were stolen though (Emperor forbid), it's one of the first addresses I would be alerting, after the local clubs (and obviously the police). I'd also be trawling local auction/selling sites to see if anything familiar shows up.
But I fear that after they find out just how hard to move such items are, they will just be thrown in the trash, to dispose of the evidence.
The actual chance of recovering the stolen miniatures is therefore realistically not very high. But I do remember from my time on the Bolter and Chainsword forum, that a guy reported his packed army stolen from his car after a game one night, and him ending up facing an opponent at a tournament some months later, fielding his very own army! Turns out the army was taken by the same guy. Interesting discussion that must have been :D But at least he got more than 90% of his stolen property back...
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Steve's robbery aside for a moment. Can anyone explain why a burglar would take minis? Heavy, delicate and easily damaged, hard to fence and being realistic not very valuable n the scheme of things robbed from houses.
I have always wondered as about every 3 or 4 years you get a thread like this about someone being robbed.
It’s not a common item to steal, therefore there’s always a possibility it was ‘stolen to order’. I’d imagine this was the most likely case. It’d be interesting to know what other property was stolen at the same time. If it wasn’t stolen to order, this sort of thing will very likely end up ‘in the bin’ if they can’t get a quick turnaround on it.
Certain thieves are aware of the high resale value of Warhammer 40k in particular, though, and could have taken miniatures Just assuming they’re all the same.
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Which makes me think they're inside/community jobs. I fear conventions are the perfect place for this to happen. Or if you've got your address posted online for a wargaming related service. Pigs.
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Probably think they're a valuable metal that can be melted down (like copper etc) or have been told that they're worth a lot of money and don't quite understand how.
Burglars aren't smart. My friend that got robbed had a £20 booze bottle stolen but not his £400 guitar.
This was my thought as well. To me this screams of someone thinking they found a pile of metal they can sell to a scrap recycler.
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This was my thought as well. To me this screams of someone thinking they found a pile of metal they can sell to a scrap recycler.
I got mugged for my Chinese takeaway once but they never considered taking the phone in my hand.
Garden variety robbers ain't clever.
The sad thing is that if all this was in boxes , they probably took it after looking for a few seconds and thinking it was jewellery.It's probably been dumped or smashed by now :/
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Is he still able to leak?
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This was my thought as well. To me this screams of someone thinking they found a pile of metal they can sell to a scrap recycler.
I'd be surprised if that was the case. Who see's toy soldiers and thinks of scrap metal, especially when a lot were plastic?
In a quick opportunistic snatch and grab anything goes because even low value items add up when sold onto a fence. From the amount of stuff taken though it sounds like the thief had a bit of time to grab quite a lot. They went for the obvious potentially high value items and also took a shit load of models that even to someone not in the know might look like they could be of value or at least easy to pass on. It would be interesting to know whether Steve's studio was cleared out completely or if they just grabbed what they could easily handle. I'd assume they had a car. I doubt the 'just a junkie' line.
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There are definitely targeted burglaries going on in the model making world. Here in SE England, over the past 3-4 years, there have been a number. Victims tend to be successful modellers with a higher profile than most; some kits, tools and paints taken, but completed models and dioramas cleared out and obviously the target of the theft.
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might be worth remembering that in the UK Everyone knows someone that does warhammer and we all know ,through friends or family, that it's expensive. Maybe it's going to join lego as the criminal currency of choice, something which at the bery least keeps value when kept in good condition and will always have a market?
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might be worth remembering that in the UK Everyone knows someone that does warhammer and we all know ,through friends or family, that it's expensive. Maybe it's going to join lego as the criminal currency of choice, something which at the bery least keeps value when kept in good condition and will always have a market?
Unless someone nicked a copy of Dreadfleet. ;)
Anyway, any updates on the case?
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Unless someone nicked a copy of Dreadfleet. ;)
Anyway, any updates on the case?
See even dreadfleet , a game no one really raved over, Sells consistently on ebay for near retail if it's unopened.
And if you've knicked it and can shift it quickly and consistently for £20, you don't really care whether it's for retail or not.
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See even dreadfleet , a game no one really raved over, Sells consistently on ebay for near retail if it's unopened.
And if you've knicked it and can shift it quickly and consistently for £20, you don't really care whether it's for retail or not.
I know it's getting off topic but when I was trying to shift my spare copies it really didn't look like it had held it's value at all. Still stuck with one copy.
Anyway, what part of the UK is Steve in and is it possible to search Ebay by region or city? Just wondering whether any searches for listings have been done just to see.