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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Digits on January 07, 2020, 11:34:14 PM

Title: Outremer - Crusading goodies - city walls
Post by: Digits on January 07, 2020, 11:34:14 PM
“Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; that is your oath.”

(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/DigitsDavid/A%20Medieval%20Adventure/80CD93B6-4865-45F4-9A5D-035FFDAE7DA2.jpeg)


So, inspired by my recent introduction to Fistful of Lead, and the collective medieval projects here, I want to build a couple of medieval war bands. 

A favourite film of mine, Kingdom of Heaven is leading me to set them firmly in the mid crusades and I want to build my first band around the image above....my favourite scene in the film.

I have various Fireforge and Perry sprues winging their way to me......more soon..... (edit:  in a few pages I change mind and go Footsore / Barons War…..)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 08, 2020, 01:28:18 AM
Well said that man, here's the leader of my FFofL Crusaders.
King Harry the Lionfart...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=120017.0;attach=108968;image)

 ::)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Malamute on January 08, 2020, 08:31:20 AM
Excellent stuff! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. ;D
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on January 08, 2020, 10:12:39 AM
Not painted by me but painted by Iain McDonald of Flags of War fame for me during the heady days of the Steve Dean Forum Painting Swap (Salad Days indeed- I hope it serves as inspiration.....


Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 08, 2020, 12:15:03 PM
Fantastic figure, wish he was in my Crusade!

 :-*
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on January 08, 2020, 12:30:04 PM
Fantastic figure, wish he was in my Crusade!

 :-*

He's sitting in my cabinet. I've got half a dozen or so mini's from the forum painting swap. Not all Crusades though :)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 08, 2020, 12:41:14 PM
Here's an excellent idea, old chum...
send him off Crusading to the New Emporium by the Seaside.

 ;D
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: richardpate on January 08, 2020, 07:52:07 PM
that is my favorite movie, right above El Cid.  I have my middle age forces  based on vikings and saxons which can also be used as early reconquista christians in Spain and as early crusader infantry.  Add in some gripping beast knights, moor and plastic moor can and archers and it's on its way.  Good luck with the project.  Check out Schrivsland for inspiration.  Rick
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Michi on January 08, 2020, 08:03:42 PM
“Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; that is your oath.”

(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/DigitsDavid/A%20Medieval%20Adventure/80CD93B6-4865-45F4-9A5D-035FFDAE7DA2.jpeg)

A favourite film of mine, Kingdom of Heaven is leading me to set them firmly in the mid crusades and I want to build my first band around the image above....my favourite scene in the film.

YES, YES, YES!!! Go on! God wills it!
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5V1uBPv9Yck/Wmum04MnbPI/AAAAAAAAJuA/WzFnXvDMBa8BKwf44uIn-l9wTmaPZw6GQCLcBGAs/s1600/Templer%2B067.JPG)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 09, 2020, 01:44:01 AM
He's sitting in my cabinet. I've got half a dozen or so mini's from the forum painting swap. Not all Crusades though :)

Who makes the Crusader figure please?

 :-*
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on January 09, 2020, 06:50:11 AM
Who makes the Crusader figure please?

 :-*

You know, I don't actually remember! I *think* he was a freebie of some kind a quite a while back......

If anyone else can chip in?
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 09, 2020, 07:26:27 AM
Yes he’s not the Wargames Illustrated  Balian D’Ibeline figure...different pose.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: flatpack on January 09, 2020, 07:45:45 AM
This topic has our juices flowing.
Look what happens when you get a fun set of rules.
Looking at what figures we have around to get to the table to play against Digits.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 09, 2020, 09:56:17 AM
Yes he’s not the Wargames Illustrated  Balian D’Ibeline figure...different pose.

That's right Digits, Harry the Lionfart's, the WI figure.

 ???
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 09, 2020, 11:14:16 AM
So he is!   Nice one, I may have to order him.

Flatpack - to be fair, the guys on here (Captain Blood, Mamalute etc got there first....I’m merely stoked by what they have done.  If I get a few figures that look HALF as good,  I will be made up!  Their battle report using FFoL was the final straw.....I couldn’t resist!
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Malamute on January 09, 2020, 11:34:47 AM
So he is!   Nice one, I may have to order him.

Flatpack - to be fair, the guys on here (Captain Blood, Mamalute etc got there first....I’m merely stoked by what they have done.  If I get a few figures that look HALF as good,  I will be made up!  Their battle report using FFoL was the final straw.....I couldn’t resist!

Very pleased to hear we contributed to your latest venture lol

Looking forward to seeing your progress. ;D

We have some games planned for a few weeks time. Everyone is busy building and painting new retinues in readiness.... lol
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 09, 2020, 11:42:34 AM
It's a great film for inspiration  :)

The black and cream certainly does have an appeal to it.

Everyone is busy building and painting new retinues in readiness.... lol

As well as terrain  ::) lol
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 09, 2020, 11:45:30 AM
Yep, FFofL's a good 'un. There's only very rare occasions when you feel you've actually joined your toys in their world. This has happened to me a few times in the Wacky World of Wiley!!!

:)  :-*  :)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on January 09, 2020, 06:03:46 PM
I agree with Oscar Wilde, I can resist anything but temptation.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 09, 2020, 08:22:18 PM
I think Bob and I were hoping you might have a few Muslim figures in your lead pile fella!
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 10, 2020, 12:16:58 AM
Gots to have some Warriors of Allah for yer Crusaders to chop up...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=120017.0;attach=108972;image)

 ::)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 10, 2020, 10:54:51 AM
Hmm...just been looking round at the various available suppliers of Muslim figures. 

The Perry ones are nice but I feel the range a little limited.  A few nice packs from Artizan helps but after that, the quality of others worries me.

However, for a small band a pack or two from these two purchased, will allow me to build a pair of bands and a few civilians for flavour....
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 10, 2020, 12:24:01 PM
I'm concentrating on the Crusaders, so not too bothered about the quality of the Saracens, as I won't be using 'em!
Having said that I couldn't resist this bloke as mi' Mad Mullah and his bodyguard...

(https://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1135.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on January 10, 2020, 12:37:47 PM
I'm concentrating on the Crusaders, so not too bothered about the quality of the Saracens, as I won't be using 'em!
Having said that I couldn't resist this bloke as mi' Mad Mullah and his bodyguard...

(https://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1135.jpg)

 :)

Not dissimilar to this image.....
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 10, 2020, 12:54:25 PM
Yup saw that one.  I’ve just bought some Andalusian Moor archers/ crossbow and a pack of Berber spearmint from Artizan, and  a pack of Turk heavy cavalry and a pack of dismounted Turks from Perry. 

Enough to give me a reasonable choice of figures to make two retinues I feel. 

Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 10, 2020, 01:03:48 PM
Sounds good, looking forward to seeing some piccys. If I ever decide to tickle up the Saracens, these lads look the bizzo...

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/ma/ma28.jpg)

 :-*
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on January 10, 2020, 01:36:33 PM
Sounds good, looking forward to seeing some piccys. If I ever decide to tickle up the Saracens, these lads look the bizzo...

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/ma/ma28.jpg)

 :-*

Sorry to go slightly OT.... one of my wishes  for the Perry Crusade range is that they produce some 'Arab' heavy infantry as the models above are mostly Turkic.

One can dream..... maybe some plastic 'Arab' infantry for the 11th and 12th centuries one day :)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 10, 2020, 01:45:10 PM
Yup...thanks for showing them.....that’s the pack of dismounted I bought....now it will show up my mediocre painting!  :?
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 10, 2020, 02:06:26 PM
Stand 'em next to mine then they'll look right good!

  :-[
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on January 10, 2020, 04:31:39 PM
I did reply to Bob. I do have some Crusade stuff (both sides).
I will try & track them down over the weekend & let you know what I have,
however it sounds like you have lots already.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 10, 2020, 05:51:03 PM
I’m certainly covered now I think bud! Lol

Got home this afternoon to find postie had delivered my own copy of FFoL and my Fireforge mounted Templar and Sgt at arms sprues along with my Wargames illustated Balian figure!

A little disappointed with the Fireforge tbh......same horses and same knight bodies and same cloaks in each!  The only difference between the boxes being differing heads and weapons / shield arms.....so much for variety!

Anyway, I will have a few spare if the guys need them.

Now....going to read my new rule book.....

Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 10, 2020, 11:22:10 PM
What do you reckon to the Wargames illustated Balian figure? I thought it was pretty poor the way the leg disappears above the knee!

:o
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 11, 2020, 12:39:18 AM
What do you reckon to the Wargames illustated Balian figure? I thought it was pretty poor the way the leg disappears above the knee!

:o

Doesn’t bother me too much, easily incorporated into the shadow....and I win whenever there is less to paint!  ;)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 11, 2020, 05:31:43 PM
Popped together the first few figures. 

I want to make homage to the picture in the opening post. Here's a start

(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/DigitsDavid/A%20Medieval%20Adventure/9E8C09FA-447B-43DB-979C-DE54FF47435D.jpeg)

I’ve also started on my fistful of sand band

(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/DigitsDavid/A%20Medieval%20Adventure/15F6F191-66A5-44A5-A4AD-AAF6B3075099.jpeg)

Not too sure yet, may elect to take grunts.

Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Captain Blood on January 11, 2020, 05:42:12 PM
Great start  :)

Love that shooting bowman  ;)

Yes, Fireforge are very cheeky. Many of their sets contain a lot of the same components as their other sets. In some cases, there’s not a huge amount of difference.
That said, I think the foot figures at least do provide the best raw material to facilitate creative kit-bashing of generic early medieval figures. And once you’ve bought a few of the different boxes, you do end up with a reasonable assortment of different bodies.
But I’ve always felt their repackaging of many of the same components into ‘different’ kits is a bit of a rip-off  ::)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 11, 2020, 06:29:19 PM
Glad you recognise your bowman!  :D

Yup, they are, and to call the one sprue a “ command sprue” is a real joke!

None the less, I’m not making as many as you fella so I can make enough variety for my purposes.

Best still, I have a few spare horse for the South Warwickshire posse if they need one.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Malamute on January 11, 2020, 07:17:16 PM
Excellent start  :)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Phil Portway on January 11, 2020, 07:50:54 PM
Fire Forge are nice figures to paint & "campaign up"
(https://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/1815philip/Templars%2028mm/DSC03776_zps78289f13.jpg) (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/1815philip/media/Templars%2028mm/DSC03776_zps78289f13.jpg.html)

(https://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/1815philip/Templars%2028mm/DSC03779_zpsbb5c1e66.jpg) (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/1815philip/media/Templars%2028mm/DSC03779_zpsbb5c1e66.jpg.html)


On a Side note, Richard ( A Salute Freebie Figure 2003)
(https://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/1815philip/Templars%2028mm/DSC03578_zpsa34aa23a.jpg) (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/1815philip/media/Templars%2028mm/DSC03578_zpsa34aa23a.jpg.html)

You will end up getting the crusade bug. Here is my Salute game 1100 troops (700 Mounted) painted over a 3 year period!
(https://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/1815philip/Salute%202018/DSC01862_zpsnz08mugr.jpg) (https://s305.photobucket.com/user/1815philip/media/Salute%202018/DSC01862_zpsnz08mugr.jpg.html)

Good luck!
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 11, 2020, 08:01:35 PM
I won’t be going that far I think!  Good looking table though.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on January 12, 2020, 01:49:56 PM


Quote
I won’t be going that far I think!

That remind me, how tall are the trees in the Holy Land?
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 12, 2020, 04:32:43 PM
Nope....not biting.  I’m sure I have a bunch of plastic palms somewhere....
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: flatpack on January 12, 2020, 04:39:29 PM
Plastic palm trees, got millions (well about 20 )
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on January 12, 2020, 07:30:42 PM
Plastic Flatpack?
Not real palm trees...  It's a date then!

I'll get me coat.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: flatpack on January 12, 2020, 09:33:57 PM
Oh dear  ;D
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 13, 2020, 03:08:37 PM
Indeed.

So I’m thinking a little Hollywood here.  Regardless of what a crap film, and that’s with a capital C, the 2018 Robin Hood was, I am of a mind to change out the headware on a few archers for a shemagh or “desert” garb.  I did like the look of them in the opening crusade elements of the film.

Yes, I know there were liberties taken with other dress (too modern looking etc) in the film, but, I defy anyone to tell me otherwise but I believe adopting the cooler more practical local headdress may well have occurred.

Besides, i think it will look the dogs!   Ordered a few heads.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 13, 2020, 04:10:00 PM
Good man, Hollywood type bollix is just perfect for FFofL.

 :-*
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Hu Rhu on January 13, 2020, 04:37:38 PM
Is it just me or are the photos missing?

Popped together the first few figures. 

I want to make homage to the picture in the opening post. Here's a start

(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/DigitsDavid/A%20Medieval%20Adventure/9E8C09FA-447B-43DB-979C-DE54FF47435D.jpeg)

I’ve also started on my fistful of sand band

(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/DigitsDavid/A%20Medieval%20Adventure/15F6F191-66A5-44A5-A4AD-AAF6B3075099.jpeg)

Not too sure yet, may elect to take grunts.



Fire Forge are nice figures to paint & "campaign up"
(https://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/1815philip/Templars%2028mm/DSC03776_zps78289f13.jpg) (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/1815philip/media/Templars%2028mm/DSC03776_zps78289f13.jpg.html)

(https://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/1815philip/Templars%2028mm/DSC03779_zpsbb5c1e66.jpg) (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/1815philip/media/Templars%2028mm/DSC03779_zpsbb5c1e66.jpg.html)


On a Side note, Richard ( A Salute Freebie Figure 2003)
(https://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/1815philip/Templars%2028mm/DSC03578_zpsa34aa23a.jpg) (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/1815philip/media/Templars%2028mm/DSC03578_zpsa34aa23a.jpg.html)

You will end up getting the crusade bug. Here is my Salute game 1100 troops (700 Mounted) painted over a 3 year period!
(https://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/1815philip/Salute%202018/DSC01862_zpsnz08mugr.jpg) (https://s305.photobucket.com/user/1815philip/media/Salute%202018/DSC01862_zpsnz08mugr.jpg.html)

Good luck!

Weirdly as I post this reply, I can see the link to Photobucket in the quotes but they don't appear in the text when posted. 
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 13, 2020, 06:57:49 PM
Well I can see both the originals and your duplicates so no idea!
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Hu Rhu on January 14, 2020, 02:09:58 PM
Well I can see both the originals and your duplicates so no idea!

Switched to a different computer and there they were.   o_o o_o

I have to say that your crusaders are looking good.  :-*
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 14, 2020, 07:11:20 PM
Cheers but I need to do a little modification before I add paint.  Hopefully they will look ok then.

I’m not happy with the lack of “clutter” on them.  I doubt any crusader worth his salt, would not carry a water bottle / gourd to quench his thirst, nor would he be without a coin purse or some such.  So these need adding along with a few bits of missing leather strapping etc.

As a reenactor, I come across lots of “ well there is no proof of that as we don’t have remains or woodcuttings” etc.....but you also need to use common sense. 

I’m also toying with adding a little mail barding around the horses chests again from the opening picture.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Malamute on January 14, 2020, 10:02:12 PM
Excellent idea to add the extra details. Sometimes it’s these little things that make the figures really come to life. :)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on January 15, 2020, 02:45:39 PM
Remember, 'Absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence'
As you know, Digits, people in 17th century paintings may well
be contemporary, but not as if on campaign. They were wearing
their Sunday best for the portrait.
Go with the added details. It, as has been said, 'Makes the figure
come to life'.  I look forward to a conversion with the knight quenching
his thirst from a gourd/wine skin etc. with the obligatory peasant
holding his helmet.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 15, 2020, 02:56:58 PM
Exactly.....which is why I hate latchets!  Damn silly idea on campaign!
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on January 15, 2020, 03:15:08 PM
I like my latchets! Those big holes on the side let the water out.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: mithril on January 16, 2020, 03:42:35 AM
given it is the desert, a waterbag would be a given. while most of the major supplies would have been kept behind as part of a baggage train, along with the spare horses, i have a hard time believing that the troops wouldn't have carried at least a small waterbag with them.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 16, 2020, 07:59:48 AM
Agreed, goatskins definitely.  We lived for a while in Algeria when I was young and I can recall lots of gourds growing and being used for many uses including water bottles.  Easy to fashion from green stuff I think.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 16, 2020, 02:05:15 PM
Never mind all that crap about gourds and wotnot...
just make sure everyone's got a big chopper!!!

 :o
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: mithril on January 16, 2020, 10:05:29 PM
Agreed, goatskins definitely.  We lived for a while in Algeria when I was young and I can recall lots of gourds growing and being used for many uses including water bottles.  Easy to fashion from green stuff I think.
maybe a small pouch on the belt as well. it wasn't uncommon for lesser knights to carry pouches of coins into battle. to bribe footsoldiers if they were wounded or captured. usually to prevent them from being killed, as a sort of 'down payment' on the ransom that would come later.

and probably just water bags. while Gourds were used as water storage in the region, gourds  suited to that use were usually fairly large, and being stiff, hard to carry. there might well be gourds or more likely stoppered jars of water and wine with the baggage train, but the individual would likely have carried a softskin water bag for their own use.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 17, 2020, 07:27:40 AM
That makes sense.  Even easier for gs me thinks.  I may fashion a couple this weekend to see how they look.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on January 17, 2020, 06:42:41 PM
You could have a NPC servant with/without pack mule.
I remember (& may still have) a fantasy figure which was completely laden down
with just about everything, bow, bags, weapons & even a KITCHEN SINK!
It was a dig at those D&D players who have it all. It was sold as the 'Complete Adventurer'.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 17, 2020, 08:59:56 PM
Already ahead of you mate!

https://www.studiominiatures.com/shop/medieval-mayhem.html

I’ve already ordered Sir Galahad (and the French Castle Guard).  The others had squires clutching their coconuts.....a bit too daft me thinks for this! Lol


As for the complete adventurer, yes I have him too somewhere....great mini.

I’m about to base and prime my Muslims so I can start painting them whilst I’m finishing the plastic models.

(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/DigitsDavid/A%20Medieval%20Adventure/010FFF3A-FDCD-4DC5-A65E-2063CA7309D6.jpeg)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Engel on January 23, 2020, 07:05:50 AM
Looking good
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on October 27, 2020, 05:40:24 PM
Been a while.....fell flat, got Covid, painted a shed load of Naps, built a Church, got into CoC and painted a few Germans.....but now I feel ready to get back and give this a go!

Slightly different vibe though.

I’m not actually so interested in painting Balian and his followers but actually like the idea of concentrating on a small force of Seljuk / Turkoman cavalry with a few Arabs/moors mixed in.   I may even have a go at building a Bedouin style tent or two.  I’m not buying any more though until I’ve painted the few I’ve got. 

The few knights I have will simply get painted as Knight Hospitallers with a few mercenary archers / support.

I picked up a copy of Lion Rampant...so I doubt the Islamic force will end up more than 24 horse and a dozen foot.  If I get to play it and enjoy it, then I can add alternate troop choices later.

Enough gabbing, I need to paint something.


Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on October 27, 2020, 08:30:59 PM
Good luck on this Digits.
I have a stack of desert buildings & Arab civilians (they are 25mm mainly, but I think
we can get away with them). Like Flatpack I too have palm trees. Also an Oasis pool.
Haven't come across my (unpainted)  figures yet, but the sort out continues, so who knows.
Did send for the Crusader Lion Rampant rules from North Star.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on October 27, 2020, 10:06:32 PM
Good.  Perhaps if we egg each other on we will get something approaching a game together.   I will concentrate on the Islamic forces in that case.

I need to find a suitable figure to represent Imad ad-Din al-Isfahani, heavily fictionalised as played by Alexander Siddig in Kingdom of Heaven to lead my little chaps.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/9A1E4572_BDD1_4992_B813_2F1F2D26C54C.gif?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Scrubber on November 01, 2020, 08:47:26 PM
Something I’ve nearly got the figure for. Remember all those Saxon, well here’s the 1066 Norman’s.

Title: A call to the Holy Land - “God wills it!”
Post by: Digits on November 27, 2023, 08:35:06 PM
Ok, the butterfly in me has again flitted and landed once more on this disaster of a project.  However, like a few of my projects, that’s often the way.

I have recently been drawn to “Baron’s War” and the supplement “Outremer” from Footsore.   I have ordered the books and a handful of minis to get me started.

I realised that in making my desert scenery earlier this year, it is screaming out for a small hill top keep and a few dozen skirmishing crusaders / knights hospitalier scrapping over it.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/8E8D68E3-6A90-4553-9AC4-35A9B214B223.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

Anyway, let’s see what happens….
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: trev on November 27, 2023, 11:24:09 PM
That terrain looks good.  Perfect for an ambush.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on November 28, 2023, 06:52:17 AM
That terrain looks good.  Perfect for an ambush.

I have to agree, it's a fabulous looking table set up you have there  :-*
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Michi on November 28, 2023, 08:51:48 AM
God still wills it...  lol
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 28, 2023, 09:05:42 AM
God still wills it...  lol

 lol

I need to find a suitable figure to represent Imad ad-Din al-Isfahani, heavily fictionalised as played by Alexander Siddig in Kingdom of Heaven to lead my little chaps.

If you haven't found anything then maybe one of the Perry dismounted muslim cavalry will do?

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/ma28-dismounted-armoured-cavalryattacking-and-defending/ (https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/ma28-dismounted-armoured-cavalryattacking-and-defending/)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Captain Blood on November 28, 2023, 10:47:16 AM
Nice gorges. The vultures are a lovely touch  8)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on December 13, 2023, 10:01:13 PM
Thanks!

Finally, my order from Footsore arrived today……time to start reading and assembling a small force…..


(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/IMG_1388.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

Before 5hat though…I had to start with Balian, defender of Jerusalem, and his friend, the Hospitalier.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/IMG_1385.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

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Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Basementboy on December 13, 2023, 10:41:50 PM
I’m a little late to this part but I’ll wholeheartedly agree that the terrain looks excellent. :-* Did you get any of the caliphate figures from Footsore by the way? Been thinking about grabbing some but I don’t know the quality of the slightly older sculpts.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on December 13, 2023, 11:26:06 PM
Concentrating on a Hospitalier / pilgrim collection first.

I did however get the Mamluk Champion on foot and Forces of Islam Bannerman.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on December 14, 2023, 06:29:46 AM
Judging by what you achieve, nothing wrong with a 'Butterfly' approach.
Very well done David, & keep on 'flitting'  ;)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Basementboy on December 14, 2023, 09:16:47 AM
Concentrating on a Hospitalier / pilgrim collection first.

I did however get the Mamluk Champion on foot and Forces of Islam Bannerman.
Good to know! Looking forward to seeing them painted ;)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 18, 2024, 11:17:59 AM
A bit to go for that…..but my pilgrims finally turned up.  I love the cart…a shame they have only released one though.   The pilgrims are nice minis and I may buy a pack of Perrys clergy to bolster their numbers.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/IMG_4618.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)


I have made a start on the Hospitalliers……well, their horses anyway!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/IMG_4619.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Aaron on January 18, 2024, 01:03:57 PM
If you are after more pilgrims, Eureka Miniatures just announced a set based on the Canterbury Tales. Probably not exactly what you are after since many of them are on horseback, but it would add some variety.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on January 18, 2024, 02:05:40 PM
I will check those out….thanks!
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Poiter50 on January 18, 2024, 02:27:02 PM
I think they are only just cutting the moulds now, so drop them a line to see when they will be available.

I will check those out….thanks!
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 14, 2025, 02:02:46 PM
Flitting about, I decided to paint the cart.   This is a project I want to get back to, and I like this piece.   I may do a few Hospitalliers next…..

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/9d57b9ca-543e-4fe4-8f22-a4d83a2c2cb0.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Ogrob on April 14, 2025, 02:16:00 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Basementboy on April 14, 2025, 02:17:43 PM
Very cool! The cart looks great, and the guard is lovely as well. good to see this project returning!
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 14, 2025, 04:54:32 PM
Cheers both.   

The main reason I have decided to dust these off,  is that I have an impending trip to Malta on the horizon.   The Knights of St John hold a minor fascination and I hope to find out a bit more about them there.

I have also cleaned up nine crossbow men, and may get them out of the way too.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on April 14, 2025, 07:04:32 PM
Fab  :-* :-* :-*

The chaps on the wagon look very natural- excellent work  8)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Storm Wolf on April 14, 2025, 07:08:55 PM
Looks very good and useful for lots of scenarios i especially like the guy riding shotgun, erm' crossbow beautiful  :-*
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: blacksoilbill on April 15, 2025, 12:08:35 AM
I love that wagon.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Little Odo on April 15, 2025, 08:50:01 AM
Great looking diorama - the figures are perfect to depict part of a pilgrimage to the Holy Land
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 15, 2025, 09:24:39 AM
Thanks.  Yup it’s just a shame they only have the one wagon…I need to look about for a suitable second from elsewhere.   Maybe Perry?  It’s trying to find something that fits in that’s the issue….i may look at Gripping Beast too.

Meanwhile, I have just ordered some Islamic opposition and a couple of other minis.

Should have my mounted Hospitallers painted shortly….

Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitalliers
Post by: Digits on April 17, 2025, 07:50:04 PM
Progress!

The mounted Hospitallers are done


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And I have made a start on the foot knights….command done.


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Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Captain Blood on April 17, 2025, 08:14:28 PM
Lovely job!  :-*
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Digits on April 17, 2025, 09:58:20 PM
Cheers!

To finish this force, I have 6 crossbow sergeants on the paint tray now.  Plus 9 more foot knights, 6 sergeants with spear, and about a dozen pilgrims.   I have NO idea what that means in terms of points and now it looks like I want to buy the second edition, having never played the first! lol

Eventually I WILL do some sergeants of Ibelin, along with a mounted Balian….plus a few knights of Jerusalem, and a small handful of Templars (just ordered them with my Islamic order).

Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Hu Rhu on April 17, 2025, 10:10:25 PM
Fabulous painting.  :-* :-*
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: flatpack on April 18, 2025, 08:25:04 AM
Those look great mate.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: RedRowan on April 18, 2025, 08:27:47 AM
Those are looking very nice!

Steve
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Atheling on April 18, 2025, 08:48:20 AM
Very nice work Digits.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: has.been on April 18, 2025, 09:10:24 AM
Nicely done David.
I always fancied doing a few Knights of St Lazarus.
They were knights who had to leave their orders due to contracting leprosy.
Lots of interesting modelling to be had  there.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Digits on April 18, 2025, 09:23:57 AM
Indeed.  Footsore do a couple of them…one with a nicely contorted face. 

Cheers all. 
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Digits on April 19, 2025, 01:22:54 PM
In the middle of painting a small batch of sergeants, I got distracted and painted the first of my pilgrims.  The guy in foot having picked up a fallen knights shield.  I have about 15 or so pilgrims and and I like the look of a few Perry minis too so may expand them…after all, the hospitallers do need someone to protect!  I want another wagon or two….and Andy Hobday has suggested in response to my posting, that he may get a few other crew/ guards made up to swap about on the them….that would be cool.  At some poin5 I will no doubt pick up a sprue or three of Wargames Atlantic sergeants ( will definitely plump for a box of mounted ones) and could I suppose fashion a guard or two from them.

Anyway, distracted enough, back to painting….

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Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Basementboy on April 19, 2025, 02:30:17 PM
Hell yeah! Hospitallers and pilgrims both look great :)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Marine0846 on April 19, 2025, 04:49:33 PM
Well painted on your latest figures.
Really like your black on your knights.
I find that black for me is hard to get right.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Digits on April 19, 2025, 05:12:47 PM
Me too…but I started to use Corvus black from GW as it’s a very flat black and it’s significantly easier these days.   Cheers
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Atheling on April 19, 2025, 07:52:20 PM
Well painted on your latest figures.
Really like your black on your knights.
I find that black for me is hard to get right.

If you're having trouble with layering blacks- try the Andrea acrylic Black set- it really is an amazing tool- or at least it was for me.
https://www.historexagents.net/product/black-paint-set/ (https://www.historexagents.net/product/black-paint-set/)


Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Marine0846 on April 19, 2025, 10:40:39 PM
Thanks for the tip on the black paint.
Went on line a ordered the set from Noble Knight games in the US.
It was $35.00 and $4.95 postage.
I think it is a pretty fair price.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Slayer on April 20, 2025, 05:36:54 AM
lovely painting, following with alot of interest
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Digits on April 20, 2025, 10:47:37 AM
Thank you!


Crossbow armed sergeants.   

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Just converting two more minis to make six spear wielding sergeants …..almost there.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Digits on April 20, 2025, 01:15:43 PM
And they’re done.

The guy third from the right is my favourite…replacing a sword with the spear.  He certainly has attitude!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/cd7d9ab0-30cf-4fb8-af2c-0e43f3d5a459.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

Not sure what to paint next….pilgrims or foot knights……probably a few pilgrims to break the monotony of black.
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Captain Blood on April 20, 2025, 06:15:23 PM
Nice job on those  :)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - Hospitallers
Post by: Digits on April 21, 2025, 05:52:27 PM
Cheers Richard.

So, I don’t need to make a lot of scenery.  I will be getting a print of the desert hospital model, and I will make a few buildings I think, otherwise I’m pretty sorted.   I do want to buy the camel riders and swap out their guns so they look more in keeping though.  As it is, I turned the fella about they are chatting to…..he’s wearing sun glasses! Lol

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Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - pilgrims
Post by: Digits on April 22, 2025, 06:23:23 PM
That’s all my pilgrims for now.  I have a few more in order but this is sufficient to fight with I believe.

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I have the fit knights to paint…..and I will have painted all I originally bought.

I have to buy the starter v2 Barons War boxed set.   I will use a few sergeants from it to make another group of spearmen I think.   Maybe even a couple more cross bows too but I will save the rest of the sprues for something else.

I also want to buy the mounted sergeants set…as I want to TRY and recreate a little bit of the opening picture in this project….Ibelin riders.   I suspect it will severely test my eyesight and show up my painting skills mind you…painting those little crosses…..
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - pilgrims
Post by: Digits on April 23, 2025, 09:44:10 AM
One thing about the Footsore range that frustrates me is their lack of foot Mumluks apart from the solitary mamluk champion and the bannerman.

Don’t get me wrong, I am looking forward to creating a horse heavy and swift Islamic retinue, but I want the flexibility to be able to put  out a dismounted set of knights.  Luckily I have a few Perry models bought when I first “started” this project.   I will have the dismounted commander to lead them when I get my order….so this should give me a nice unit.  I’m looking forward to painting these up.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/60f93a45-5b62-46bc-8197-800efdb0ae14.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

There will be a pause in the level of output though as I’m soon to be on holiday for a bit with the boss, but on my return, I will be putting a bit of effort into this.

I’m pleased that my return to this project coincides with the release of BW2 so I’m not feeling I’m late to the party for once!
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - pilgrims
Post by: tomrommel1 on April 23, 2025, 09:57:27 AM
What a nice project :-*
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - pilgrims
Post by: RedRowan on April 23, 2025, 01:15:14 PM
Footsore mentioned elsewhere about there being some news for Outremer in June so it could be there are going to be more additions to the range.

Steve
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land - pilgrims
Post by: Digits on April 23, 2025, 02:22:20 PM
Oh no!   I already spent a lot….then again….Fathers day coming up soon I think….🤔

Cheers both
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 24, 2025, 04:32:46 PM
My foot knights are painted

I don’t usually enjoy painting minis…but I loved doing these!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/109d09fe-d897-49a6-b288-9732e41a89a0.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

With the command added in

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And that means….I. finished a Retinue for Barons War!  Huzzah!

I’ve no idea how many points this is…..and I think I may add another half a dozen sergeants at some point, but I’m happy with them.   Now I need to paint someone for them to fight…..bring on the forces of Islam!

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Mikai on April 24, 2025, 04:45:15 PM
A well done job! Not a colourful lot but that's the theme  :D

Now I need to paint someone for them to fight…..bring on the forces of Islam!
Or you find some nice folks around your location for a first game ;)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 24, 2025, 06:32:46 PM
Hopefully that’s the case with Barons War (I live near Evesham!) but specifically Outremer?  Not so sure.   Best covering them myself! 😉
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Mikai on April 24, 2025, 08:59:06 PM
Ah, I was at Barons War in my mind, mixed up the threads  o_o
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Basementboy on April 24, 2025, 09:12:05 PM
great looking army! And glad you had fun painting the foot knights, they look cracker :D
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: flatpack on April 24, 2025, 11:26:46 PM
Great looking outfit there David.
Wouldn’t want to meet that little lot on the battlefield.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 25, 2025, 09:43:58 AM
Thanks guys.

Yes, lets hope they put  the fear of god into their opponents!

I have a few Seljuk Turks I bought at the start of this thread on the paint try to tackle this weekend ahead of my Footsore order.   

Meanwhile, adding a little scenery.  I made up another three stands of palm trees last week, and still feel I could do more..so will keep an eye out for my favourite plastic palms.

I see that linear obstacles are important in Barons War ( well…any wargame really!) but none of my many walls and fences will work here.   At best, I’m thinking low piles of rocks passing as boundary markers is the best you may hope to come across. 

With that in mind, a quick raid of the garden shed for some rockery grit which was rinsed then baked in the oven for half and hour gave me a stock pile of material.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/6f74ca3d-9682-4790-a5a2-2ad148a782ac.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

And work set about gluing them together

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on April 25, 2025, 11:02:50 AM
More deluptious work mate  :-*
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on April 25, 2025, 11:41:21 AM
Any more walls & we'll have to rename you...Hadrian! Nice work David.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 25, 2025, 03:16:11 PM
Cheers.   Quick ten minute paint job, (took longer to stick tufts to it!) and I’m pleased with them…..adds a little character and an obstacle to be overcome…though I doubt it will hold in the goats ( basing altered to fit the landscape from another project).

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on April 25, 2025, 03:29:05 PM
i love the terrain, especially the palm trees on the (mdf?) boards..... are they bought or home made?
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 25, 2025, 04:19:02 PM
Cheers.  Plastic palms on cut outs from cork backed placemats.   You can but 6 dinner placemats from your  supermarket for about £5 or less.   The beauty of them is they don’t warp nor slide about.  I use them for all sorts of terrain pieces.  I must have bought about twenty packs over the years! 🥴

For small stuff…I simply use 1.5mm plasticard like these walls.   Making the wells here, the placemats help.  Cut a hole in them, then attach a thin pice of plasticard under the hole and paint in the “ depth”.

Anyway, I found three more crossbow men that I discounted for the order.  However, they make a great set of disheveled looking mercenary types, hired to guard the wagon…or part of pilgrims.   Of course, I’m sure they will scarper when the Seljuk Turks appear….but that’s what the Hospitallers are for!

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: rumacara on April 25, 2025, 07:33:09 PM
A very nice project. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 25, 2025, 10:27:58 PM
Thank you for saying so 😀

Atheling got me thinking, and as usual, when I get an idea…I often jump straight in!

So, I’m saving the pennies to buy myself the lovely hospital keep made by Footsore.  Now this idea ties in nicely.   So, when Balian goes to his father’s house at Ibelin, he finds it a dust bowl and sets about digging his well and making his land fertile.    That was the inspiration for the small irrigation system in the above picture.   But it’s a tad small……

So, to answer his question properly, I thought two birds and one stone.   I will build another irrigated area, and show the build as I do so.  The twist though, simply replicating the one above is silly, and I already have two wells.   So I will also look to build a few lengths of of the hollowed trunk water aqueduct that can be arranged to join an existing well to this planted area.  The aqueducts will then provide another linear obstacle as well as adding elevated interest.

So as I said, take one cork backed dinner placemat and shape it to suit.   Bevel the edge so it doesn’t stand too proud of the table.  Then, form the area of your irrigation ditch with cocktail sticks ( or skewers, but I prefer the scale thickness of the little sticks).  I also added a couple of plastic trees for a little point of interest.

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Then start to fill in the planted areas with sand.  You could use pva (I did for the sticks) but I prefer cheap superglue.   Even though cork backed mats rarely warp….i prefer not to chance it.

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Finish it…take off the palm tops and let it dry before spraying it black

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More tomorrow…..
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on April 26, 2025, 07:52:14 AM
Looking good so far David. :)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 26, 2025, 08:34:17 AM
Cheers Pete!

So, this bit is a bit trickier and takes a little patience, but simply hollow out a dried twig, then cut supports from smaller twigs, glue and tie in place et voila….a linear object aqueduct.  Great to hide behind…or play toy boats in!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/941913e1-616e-4e80-adec-088a7d7f751e.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)


Now for some paint and a little agricultural growth…..
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: RedRowan on April 26, 2025, 08:49:54 AM
That terrain is looking amazing!

Steve
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on April 26, 2025, 08:59:23 AM
Excellent stuff Digits!

I will be borrowing some of these ideas as we're doing the NWF, Second Anglo Afghan War - probably a campaign of sorts and some of your ideas could be most useful indeed!

Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 26, 2025, 12:07:29 PM
Glad to help!

Ok, it’s finished!  Realised too late that I’d used coarse sand on this…..oh well….every piece is different! lol

Anyway, here you go.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/b1970c25-2fae-4bd0-b270-d87bf8ba2edb.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

The aqueduct can be placed at any angle to join the two bases and is a good obstacle I think.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/ef9a8df8-12e8-4ed3-8efd-88984c402a29.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)


And here’s Balian…..pretty worked up because someone has dug up some of his veg!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/9c44b331-04f5-4a29-a371-ad21be86e8ec.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Tom Dulski on April 26, 2025, 12:14:55 PM

 Very impressive terrain piece!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on April 26, 2025, 01:10:59 PM
Fantastic Digits.  :-*  You are aptly names1  :)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Ivan S on April 26, 2025, 02:17:34 PM
Wow, that's some amazing scenery!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: has.been on April 26, 2025, 02:42:23 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 26, 2025, 04:57:23 PM
Fantastic Digits.  :-*  You are aptly names1  :)

Ha!  Funnily enough…quite the opposite!   I managed to damage a fair number of fingers and toes in my first season as a musketeer in the SK…the name stuck!


Cheers guys!  Open to any more modelling ideas to boost the table?
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on April 26, 2025, 05:53:49 PM
Ha!  Funnily enough…quite the opposite!   I managed to damage a fair number of fingers and toes in my first season as a musketeer in the SK…the name stuck!


Cheers guys!  Open to any more modelling ideas to boost the table?

I know that feeling very well!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: blacksoilbill on April 27, 2025, 12:05:53 PM
That is a great looking piece: something a bit out of the ordinary for a desert table.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Freddy on April 27, 2025, 12:47:02 PM
That garden looks really impressive!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Digits on April 27, 2025, 08:03:40 PM
Thank you guys.

Ok, I have to wait a few weeks for my Footsore order but I do have this guy and I painted my first Muslim fighter.    Totally colour uncoordinated I know!   Wasn’t happy free handing this shield so I will be swapping it out with a more colourful one when the order arrives probably.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/00f18222-44a3-481a-b77d-0be29d8a1dbd.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on April 28, 2025, 07:55:27 AM
Thank you guys.

Ok, I have to wait a few weeks for my Footsore order but I do have this guy and I painted my first Muslim fighter.    Totally colour uncoordinated I know!   Wasn’t happy free handing this shield so I will be swapping it out with a more colourful one when the order arrives probably.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/00f18222-44a3-481a-b77d-0be29d8a1dbd.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

Lovely work Digits- that banner looks to be unique(?). Is so, how did you make it?
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Muslims!
Post by: Digits on April 28, 2025, 08:00:29 AM
I found (and lost the link so I can’t credit him. It luckily I kept the picture) that someone had put a selection of flags up for printing.  I simply printed them on paper, and attached using pva.   Simply just tarted the edges with a dab of paint.

I like it though…and not too glossy which often happens with certain commercial offerings. 

Edit: Found him… Eric the Shed!


https://shedwars.blogspot.com/2015/03/saracen-pennants-flags-and-banners.html?m=1
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Muslims!
Post by: Mikai on April 28, 2025, 08:22:00 AM
Quote
Very happy to send you a PDF - you can either email me on the blog or alternatively pm me your details on the Lead Adventure Forum
He was even active today  :)
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6445
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Muslims!
Post by: Digits on April 28, 2025, 08:58:45 AM
Very pleased to have been able to credit him.  😉
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on April 28, 2025, 09:17:40 AM
Sorry, wrong thread!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Muslims!
Post by: Atheling on April 28, 2025, 09:20:30 AM
I found (and lost the link so I can’t credit him. It luckily I kept the picture) that someone had put a selection of flags up for printing.  I simply printed them on paper, and attached using pva.   Simply just tarted the edges with a dab of paint.

I like it though…and not too glossy which often happens with certain commercial offerings. 

Edit: Found him… Eric the Shed!


https://shedwars.blogspot.com/2015/03/saracen-pennants-flags-and-banners.html?m=1

Thanks mate- I'm very happy to add those to my collection!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Muslims!
Post by: Hu Rhu on April 28, 2025, 04:17:59 PM
Wonderful terrain pieces.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Muslims!
Post by: Basementboy on April 29, 2025, 03:15:53 PM
He looks great! I'll second the comments about the banner, very striking :)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Muslims!
Post by: Digits on April 29, 2025, 06:37:50 PM
Thanks….so until my Footsore order arrives I’ve run out of figures really…..but I did have some unpainted Perry minis.  I rebased them to match…and because I’d glued in lances, I decided instead to add small banners.  In game these won’t count as anything other than spear armed Seljuk Turks but I like the idea of mixing these into mixed ranks of charging Islamic cavalry.

I have a couple of packs of mamluk and light cavalry coming, but I think these will fit in nicely, so I’m tempted to add a couple more packs of Perry…..

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/d9d57001-075b-4f7d-ad14-bcd5e4ce22c8.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on April 29, 2025, 07:19:47 PM
Not painted by me but painted by Iain McDonald of Flags of War fame for me during the heady days of the Steve Dean Forum Painting Swap (Salad Days indeed- I hope it serves as inspiration.....

He's a beauty! Who makes him?
Title: Re: A call to the Holy Land
Post by: Atheling on April 29, 2025, 07:35:08 PM
He's a beauty! Who makes him?

I honestly cannot remember Mike- perhaps if Iain reads this he might remember?
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Muslims!
Post by: Digits on May 07, 2025, 02:05:38 PM
So, I’m sitting on the balcony of my cruise ship, heading to Malta where I’m hoping to see a little history pertaining to the Hospitallers.   Plenty of time for pondering my next steps and plotting a few mini projects..

And I keep coming back to this image of Balian and his men charging the massed cavalry of Salahuddin! 

(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/DigitsDavid/A%20Medieval%20Adventure/80CD93B6-4865-45F4-9A5D-035FFDAE7DA2.jpeg)

I prefer the look of these horses, with their simple looking mail chest barding, to the heavy cloth covered barding the new Wargames Atlantic knight horses.  Somehow it looks more sensible in the heat of the Holy Land with the heavy cloth covering more suitable to the fields of wet n windy Blighty!

With that in mind, I have ordered a box of the mounted sergeants , along with a sprue of the mounted knights ( without their horses) to mix in to try and recreate this scene and give me a nice viable unit or two for BW Outremer.

Only knights I think can have lances so I will effectively make two similar looking units….one of “ knights” with lances, the other sergeants with spears.  I have also ordered a Greenstuff world mail press mold to recreated the barding.



Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: Digits on May 19, 2025, 07:47:12 PM
Ok, I give you Balian of Ibelin….mk2!


Using this as my inspiration.

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I kit bashed a mounted sergeant horse ( adding chest mail) and a WA knight…repositioning his torso.

Also did him on foot.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/d6296c90-f028-4479-823b-637046d4256d.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

My eyes ain’t that good these days…..so the crosses are a bit crappy, but I’m happy enough with him…..now I just need to paint his retinue! 🥲
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: Mikai on May 19, 2025, 09:54:58 PM
Well done kitbash and paint job! The horse looks a bit scared but that might be due to the opposition it faces  :D
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: Captain Blood on May 19, 2025, 10:40:33 PM
Great job David.
Orlando’s never looked better  8)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: Slayer on May 20, 2025, 12:34:42 AM
love the figures :-* :-*
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: blacksoilbill on May 20, 2025, 04:27:28 AM
Great work on those!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: has.been on May 20, 2025, 06:46:28 AM
Orlando has...Bloomed.  :D
Good work David.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: Atheling on May 20, 2025, 08:06:49 AM
Orlando has...Bloomed.  :D

Very well put  8)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: flatpack on May 20, 2025, 08:14:47 AM
Great stuff.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: Little Odo on May 20, 2025, 08:47:45 AM
Great kit bash and some very nice painting - the crosses look mighty fine to me.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: Basementboy on May 20, 2025, 12:08:21 PM
Crosses look great to me! Cracking work :-*
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: Digits on May 20, 2025, 05:41:55 PM
Thanks all.   When I get a breather, I will be doing another 8 minis in Ibelin livery….oh what joy!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Muslims!
Post by: Digits on May 22, 2025, 08:40:42 PM

And I keep coming back to this image of Balian and his men charging the massed cavalry of Salahuddin! 

(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/DigitsDavid/A%20Medieval%20Adventure/80CD93B6-4865-45F4-9A5D-035FFDAE7DA2.jpeg)

So, finally!   

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/9e6b87cf-540a-4f25-b319-6474fe58a612.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/28ec8f0a-ea61-4bc1-9ae5-4ea183639a94.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)


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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian of Ibelin
Post by: Digits on May 22, 2025, 08:41:59 PM
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/e1d4c51a-5733-4125-aceb-d569e79dcbc3.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian and his men
Post by: anevilgiraffe on May 23, 2025, 11:34:30 AM
lovely, especially the tabbards...
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian and his men
Post by: Digits on May 29, 2025, 03:23:38 PM
Cheers fella!  I have decided I need to buy another knight sprue as i need to expand them a little.

However, I do now need to concentrate on the Muslims….
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian and his men
Post by: LouieN on May 30, 2025, 08:43:23 AM
Some very nice Knights and retinue. 
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian and his men
Post by: Digits on May 30, 2025, 12:28:23 PM
Cheers!

Ok, a few cheap slingers.   

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/7ff67798-95b1-443a-b26c-54be318bedfb.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian and his men
Post by: has.been on May 30, 2025, 05:49:27 PM
Brings a new meaning to getting stoned on tour.  :D
Nice work David.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian and his men
Post by: Lord Raglan on May 30, 2025, 06:01:35 PM
What a great collection 👌
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian and his men
Post by: Basementboy on May 30, 2025, 09:54:20 PM
They look fantastic! Nice work as always :)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian and his men
Post by: Marine0846 on May 31, 2025, 09:09:16 PM
Love the new additions. :-*
Well painted.
May I ask, "What company was used for Balian's mounted figures."
Really sweet looking figures.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Balian and his men
Post by: Digits on May 31, 2025, 09:20:30 PM
Cheers

I used the Wargames Atlantic mounted sergeants horses, with green stuffed chest mail, with Wargames Atlantic knights riding.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Cheval de Frise
Post by: Digits on June 01, 2025, 10:52:34 AM
My take on a Cheval de Frise using captured spears.  Useful barriers me thinks.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/06f1799d-096a-4d87-bd1b-0e1a5dc224af.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/a0b64a36-fc55-4d91-b2d4-cd5bdb3e8593.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)


On the paint table….Islamic horse ( ordering a few more Perry to mix in), archers ( not sure whether to leave them random, or unify in either Ibelin or Bethlehem colours) and a few more pilgrims….

Plus I’m making up three more horse to expand Balian’s retinue.   

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/3726d2f1-d6ad-4dd2-861a-185b24b77179.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Cheval de Frise
Post by: Captain Blood on June 01, 2025, 01:29:13 PM
Great work. Love the Ibelin contingent  :-*
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Cheval de Frise
Post by: has.been on June 01, 2025, 02:20:28 PM
L love the Cheval de Frise.
" I keep getting these stabbing chest pains Doc." lol
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Cheval de Frise
Post by: Digits on June 02, 2025, 08:07:33 PM
Cheers.

Some more traditional Cheval de Frise

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/68dcb1d7-e21b-4003-a9b8-4c4fec38d329.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)


(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/edaba69d-d9c6-4529-924e-f6848c6c756d.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

So I think that’s enough…

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Cheval de Frise
Post by: Mikai on June 02, 2025, 09:24:01 PM
Simple but effective barricades. Will look into building up such ones too, thanks for giving the inspiration!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Cheval de Frise
Post by: Digits on June 06, 2025, 12:32:32 AM
I was asked to do a small dead guy tutorial by a guy on the Barons War Facebook group, resulting in this quick barricade using a few parts from the new barricade sprues in the BW Wargames Atlantic starter set

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/6810fb9c-79a8-48ff-a313-36b9e6015160.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Cheval de Frise
Post by: Mikai on June 06, 2025, 10:30:16 PM
Would you repeat the tutorial here, please? Asking for a friend  :D
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Jerusalem Archers
Post by: Digits on June 08, 2025, 08:51:38 AM
Your friend is more than welcome to check it out on the BW forum mate…too many pics for easy posting here I’m afraid! 😕

Anyway, onwards!    My take on Jerusalem archers.  I can’t quite see straight enough to do the chest emblems justice, but they will do!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/9417d8a8-f46f-495b-b4e1-06653da16141.jpeg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Jerusalem Archers
Post by: has.been on June 08, 2025, 12:18:51 PM
Nice. :)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - another cart!
Post by: Digits on June 08, 2025, 03:18:32 PM
Ta Pete!

Bought a small cart on eBay for when a scenario calls for more than one.   I had to butcher a mini and remould the jacket to make it work.  Pleased with it though.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/64a7beb3-8fb5-4636-bd65-ae0cf42bd4b2.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)


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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - another cart!
Post by: Basementboy on June 08, 2025, 06:25:16 PM
Very nice! Great conversion as well :)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - another cart!
Post by: Digits on June 10, 2025, 11:27:27 AM
Thanks!  Quite enjoying this period at the moment.   Lots more conversions coming….
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - another cart!
Post by: Atheling on June 10, 2025, 12:41:33 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - another cart!
Post by: Little Odo on June 10, 2025, 04:40:40 PM
The blue on those Jerusalem archers really pops - a great colour scheme. The new carts also add a lot of character to the ongoing project.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - another cart!
Post by: Digits on June 10, 2025, 06:55:58 PM
Cheers, glad you like them!   

I’m currently working on converting a batch of Mounted Serjeants.    I want to portray them as a beat up, weary looking returning patrol with their sick and dying.  I’m quite enjoying kitbashing these fellas…..much fun!



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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - kit bashing!
Post by: LouieN on June 11, 2025, 05:48:42 AM
Those conversions are filled with character.  Nicely work so far
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - kit bashing!
Post by: HerbertTarkel on June 11, 2025, 06:29:18 AM
Twig used to good effect, dog photo freaky, but fantastic! Everyone loves a crusade. Except maybe those on the other end - or who knows, maybe, they want to be saved!  lol
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - kit bashing!
Post by: anevilgiraffe on June 11, 2025, 07:39:14 AM
nicely done... is the chap looking back a conversion or from the sprue?
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - kit bashing!
Post by: blacksoilbill on June 11, 2025, 08:16:15 AM
Those carts have come up very nicely, and your conversions ooze character (as well as other things, by the looks!)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - kit bashing!
Post by: Digits on June 11, 2025, 08:58:59 AM
nicely done... is the chap looking back a conversion or from the sprue?

Conversion.  The basic three riders on the sprue all have quite a static upright straight ahead posture.   I basically cut them at the waist and shave wedges off to get a lean before re-attaching.  As I had pre decided the look and story behind them….coming up with the poses was easy (though some took a more than a few cuts and bevels!

The drinking guy took the most work….the left arm alone requiring three different arms and to get the backwards leaning posture meant taking a wedge off the waist, torso and neck as well as shaving off the back of his head.   Probably can’t quite appreciate the degree of lean in this picture but once he’s mounted it will be more apparent.  Quite enjoying this particular set.

Cheers for the comments guys!  And yes…the dog pic positioning is a tad funny!

Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - kit bashing!
Post by: anevilgiraffe on June 11, 2025, 10:14:11 AM
that is flawless work sir
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - kit bashing!
Post by: tomrommel1 on June 11, 2025, 01:40:02 PM
very nice conversions!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - kit bashing!
Post by: Captain Blood on June 11, 2025, 06:29:25 PM
Kitbashing is tremendous fun isn’t it? Just remember you’ve got to paint them all lol

Some very nice creations there :)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - kit bashing!
Post by: Digits on June 11, 2025, 10:27:52 PM
Cheers all!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: Digits on June 15, 2025, 02:00:57 PM
Happy with these

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: Atheling on June 15, 2025, 02:19:28 PM
Very nice!  8)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: has.been on June 15, 2025, 02:51:33 PM
You've every right to be happy with them.
For someone who professes to dislike painting figures, you do a great job.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: Digits on June 15, 2025, 04:37:31 PM
I’d much rather be building or making scenery.  It’s not that I CAN’T paint, I paint sufficiently well for me to be happy with it when done.  It’s that I really don’t LIKE painting.   It doesn’t come naturally to me so I over think it and that slows me down even further, eating up the time I could be doing something else more fun with!

Thanks.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: Gibby on June 15, 2025, 05:16:04 PM
Wonderful painting, these minis look excellent. I have a love/hate relationship with painting myself. Sometimes I really enjoy it, but often I find it a slog. The early, basecoating phase is especially tedious I find!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: Digits on June 15, 2025, 08:32:44 PM
Cheers guys.

So I plan to do a second unit of the same but in combat.  I will also do a handful of them on foot.   Purely fictitious I’m calling them the Knights of St Frederick.  They will fight under the command of any military order on the field (probably Hospitaller…but I will be doing a small batch of Templar knights at some point….hmmm…I could paint them as these guys….then field AS Templars…there’s a thought….
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: tomrommel1 on June 16, 2025, 07:11:44 AM
Very nice unit!!!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: Little Odo on June 16, 2025, 10:47:57 AM
Wonderful painting. That little vignette really tells a story. Great work!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: Digits on June 17, 2025, 12:05:15 AM
Thank you both!

Another model added

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: has.been on June 17, 2025, 09:13:29 AM
Dead good David. :D
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: Digits on June 17, 2025, 04:03:39 PM
😉
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: Marine0846 on June 17, 2025, 08:49:18 PM
Love the new mounted figures. :-*
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: rumacara on June 19, 2025, 08:58:49 AM
Super great. :-* :-* :-*
Loving the conversions. :)
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - the patrol returns!
Post by: Digits on June 19, 2025, 04:35:42 PM
Thank you chaps, pleased you like them!

I really need to get on with painting the Islamic fellas, but I still have a few units of plastic Serjeants to do to add to the order of St Frederick.   
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Mantelets
Post by: Digits on June 26, 2025, 03:18:31 PM
New siege equipment…Mantelets

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Mantelets
Post by: Mikai on June 26, 2025, 09:02:12 PM
How are you doing the ropes at the mantelets? Those are nice addons for the battlefield!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Mantelets
Post by: Digits on June 26, 2025, 09:11:26 PM
Simply tying on with waxed (flat) linnen thread.

Cheers
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Mantelets
Post by: FifteensAway on June 30, 2025, 05:48:09 AM
Not much into either crusades or Baron's War but always admire Digits work - lots of familiar terrain in this thread, glad to see it getting varied use.  Shall be peaking in from time to time to see what he comes up with - and especially on the look out for anything I can adapt to my Robin Hood project, like those crop fields.  Which reminds me, Miniature Building Authority has nice 15 mm well in their Russian stuff that I can adapt, think I'll have to buy a couple:
(https://www.miniaturebuildingauthority.com/prodimages/WWII%20Terrain/MBAL-NM15-06-1_large.jpg)

Found here: https://www.miniaturebuildingauthority.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MBAL-NM15-06 (https://www.miniaturebuildingauthority.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MBAL-NM15-06)

Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Mantelets
Post by: bluewillow on June 30, 2025, 07:27:23 AM
Loving the dead Crusader slumped over his horse!

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Islamic Foot
Post by: Digits on July 01, 2025, 03:43:59 PM
Thanks!

Struggling to paint in this heat….no motivation….must….reach….water…….

Anyway, one mixed Perry / Footsore unit of foot Mamluks.

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Islamic Foot
Post by: has.been on July 01, 2025, 05:03:43 PM
David, surely painting them in a heatwave will make them ...authentic. :D

Now about painting your Russians outside in December. lol lol lol
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Islamic Foot
Post by: valleyboy on July 01, 2025, 05:19:11 PM
Those look good
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Islamic Foot
Post by: rumacara on July 01, 2025, 05:48:53 PM
They look great. :-*
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Islamic Foot
Post by: Digits on July 01, 2025, 09:02:43 PM
Cheers!  Trying to get a few cavalry over the line…..
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Islamic Foot
Post by: flatpack on July 01, 2025, 11:13:16 PM
Very nice marmalade mate  lol lol
Look great.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Islamic Light Horse
Post by: Digits on July 03, 2025, 11:31:07 AM
Ha!



Right!

Took me an age, but the first batch of Light horse is done.   I think I will have to break the rest of the cavalry into small batches of similar coloured riders…..the variety of colour does my head in and I’m finding it difficult!

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Islamic Light Horse
Post by: blacksoilbill on July 04, 2025, 01:02:27 PM
Took me an age, but the first batch of Light horse is done.   I think I will have to break the rest of the cavalry into small batches of similar coloured riders…..the variety of colour does my head in and I’m finding it difficult!
I know what you mean: it took me ages to getting going with my Seljuk project because the variety in the horsemen was just intimidating. Yours have come up very nicely though.
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - Islamic Light Horse
Post by: LouieN on July 04, 2025, 04:11:16 PM
The lack of "uniform" colors does make medieval painting harder in some cases.  But they look good. 
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - more dead and a new banner
Post by: Digits on July 08, 2025, 07:09:47 PM
Indeed!

So, I played out a few games on Saturday at a rather chilled event aimed at getting people playing BW…..thouroughly enjoyed it!  Met a few new people and will be gaming a bit more I suspect!

Anyway, despite my fielded force doing pretty well for themselves on the day, I want to make a few tweaks.  I need a Serjeant at arms with a pendant carrying ensign….and happen to have this fella from a Footsore veteran Serjeants set handy.  Quick paint job in my now established fictional Order of St Frederick and he’s ready for action.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/0d49e181-7a1d-462a-bc8c-18ff88c2a8de/8fe81ce2-8586-42af-9e1d-09b82d779bad.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

I a,so got asked to make one of my cheval de frise for someone so knocked up this fallen archer.

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Whilst at it I also made this one to add to my collection.

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Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - more dead and a new banner
Post by: Basementboy on July 08, 2025, 07:31:07 PM
Looking great! The banner in particular is very impressive :-*
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - more dead and a new banner
Post by: Digits on July 08, 2025, 08:40:43 PM
Thank you!   I do admit to being pleased with the banner!
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - more dead and a new banner
Post by: Basementboy on July 09, 2025, 01:55:10 PM
Well I'm glad to hear that- what's the use in painting one's models if you can't luxuriate in the success afterwards :D
Title: Re: Outremer - A call to the Holy Land - more dead and a new banner
Post by: tomrommel1 on July 10, 2025, 07:00:36 AM
n ice additions
Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies
Post by: Digits on July 22, 2025, 06:51:29 PM
Thanks

Realised I hadn’t been adding updates here.

One Serjeants at arms with his men (Order of St Frederick)

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Added a few more slingers

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A few real dogs!  A unit of archers

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I made a driver for my cart

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And I decided on and ordered some SystemHex castle walls.   I intend to have scaffolding against it as they repair previous siege damage

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And I dug out a medieval crane I bought years ago.  It’s badly damaged but I’m sure I can make it usable.  It will look good as part of the rebuild effort.

Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies
Post by: Basementboy on July 22, 2025, 11:25:08 PM
This is all very impressive! Shaping up to be quite the force.
Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies
Post by: has.been on July 23, 2025, 07:09:58 AM
Some people's best efforts look like wrecks.
I think your wreck is going to look like a best effort. :)
Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies
Post by: Digits on July 23, 2025, 09:43:57 AM
 Nice of you to say so chaps, thanks!

Yes I’m quite enjoying this project.  Played a few games and thoroughly enjoyed it…and just now finishing off a few minis to plug gaps and give me options with my crusaders.  Then I really must carry on with the Islamic.

However now I can spend a little time out on the stuff I like best…scenery!   The castle walls are a start.   It’s a modular system so I can add further pieces in the future but for now I have just ordered half a dozen key pieces.   Adding scaffolding to it to put my own stamp on it will be fun.   The game isn’t really about siege warfare….but setting skirmished about a breach or engineering works will be quite cool.

I can further expand “into” the castle by adding a few Muslim houses, and other buildings as the mood takes.   I’m enjoying the period.

Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies
Post by: Digits on July 26, 2025, 04:37:37 PM
 Astley walls arrived! Time to start making a scaffold tower for the crane and scaffolding for the “breach”.   Love these walls!  I will be adding other sections in due time.

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I am al so thinking something like this model will look ok as a “Hollywood-esque” Jerusalem building inside tht walls….what do you think?

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Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies - city walls
Post by: OB on July 26, 2025, 06:18:51 PM
I think it is great. It would work for India too to my mind.
Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies - city walls
Post by: Basementboy on July 26, 2025, 06:41:00 PM
Looks grand to me! I'm getting flashbacks to Kingdom of Heaven just looking at it lol
Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies - city walls
Post by: Digits on July 26, 2025, 06:46:23 PM
That’s the plan! 😉

Cheers both!
Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies - city walls
Post by: flatpack on July 27, 2025, 09:38:32 AM
Great walls mate.
Two things.
One, the cranes a whopper  :o
Two, when will you build the second garage to store it ?  lol
Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies - city walls
Post by: Digits on July 27, 2025, 07:14:05 PM
Trying to sell off a few bits to make room tbh! lol

Yes…it is a tad large but them stones are heavy mate! 😉
Title: Re: Outremer - Crusading goodies - city walls
Post by: Digits on August 10, 2025, 06:24:51 PM
We progress….platforms / scaffolding built.   I have a few more wall sections coming and I will start adding paint….

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