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Title: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 27, 2009, 03:46:48 PM: Gents,
I try to evaluate whether my efforts are worth to be commercially cast. What I´m doing are London Tube tunnels for "Neverwhere", "Underworld", "Matrix", "Creep", "Aliens vs. Predator" and "28 days later" games (plus whatever yo can imagine). I try to catch and copy architect Leslie Green´s style and will probably make one of his typical surface buildings too. All will be cast in plaster if I manage to get molds made.
There will be platform sections as well, but only passage tunnels so far. I made them for 28mm, but they may work for 20mm too.
The first picture shows the complete set of masters for straight tunnels and T-intersections (both walkway and sewer):
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale117.jpg)

This picture shows a complete T-intersection (tubular shape) with huge 28mm and 40mm monster figure for size comparison (yeah, you could run 20mm tanks through it! :grin: ):
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale118.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale119.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale120.jpg)

The same as sewer:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale121.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale122.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale123.jpg)

Sewer section with vertical wall:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale124.jpg)

Walkway tunnel with vertical wall:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale125.jpg)

Staircase in progress. I will make only one with vertical walls, because it´s huge and will need three moulds:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale127.jpg)

Now the question is:
Would you buy such and at which price? Price per piece/per section (one 10cm long section consists of 4 parts including ceiling - should the ceiling be sold separately?)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Calimero on July 27, 2009, 06:20:44 PM: Interesting idea. I Wouldn’t buy any right now because I’m broke >:( but I think it could sell. Shouldn’t all the sections (pieces) be available separately so people could customize their tunnel according to their needs?
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 27, 2009, 06:37:05 PM: Quote from: Calimero on July 27, 2009, 06:20:44 PM
Shouldn’t all the sections (pieces) be available separately so people could customize their tunnel according to their needs?

To customer´s service...certainly yes!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Mancha on July 27, 2009, 08:21:06 PM: VERY cool idea. Seems like it would require a butload of resin to make enough parts for a "table" though. My guess is it would be prohibitively expensive.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: fastolfrus on July 27, 2009, 08:24:47 PM: We have quite a few of the Ainsty sewer sections - now produced by Old Crow - but these look very impreesive, although I think the ceiling sections should be optional.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Zafarelli on July 27, 2009, 08:33:35 PM: Well done, I really like how the straight and curved pieces match.

I'd definitely make the ceiling an optional piece, as it is completely useless for playing. Would be _very_ cool for dioramas though - especially if lit from some side tunnel.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on July 27, 2009, 09:28:11 PM: I would LOVE some.

I wouldn't want the top sections though.

They'd look great for warhammer quest...

Unfortunately, I am broke though. :(
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 27, 2009, 10:51:44 PM: Quote from: Zafarelli on July 27, 2009, 08:33:35 PM

I'd definitely make the ceiling an optional piece, as it is completely useless for playing.

To clarify: The four pieces that will make one complete section will be cast separately, chosen by the customer and glued together by him. Who needs no ceiling does not order. I´d advice to paint them before assembly...
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Calimero on July 27, 2009, 11:01:45 PM: If it’s too much of an hassle to sell cast pieces, maybe there’s a way for you to sell the masters to a company already established in miniatures buildings and/or scenic? ???
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Skrapwelder on July 28, 2009, 02:44:06 AM: Very nice. I could see where the ceilings could be of use in limiting the available area players are allowed to see.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 28, 2009, 07:23:13 AM: Quote from: Skrapwelder on July 28, 2009, 02:44:06 AM
Very nice. I could see where the ceilings could be of use in limiting the available area players are allowed to see.

That was my idea.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on July 28, 2009, 09:04:08 AM: Sounds good.

But you could argue that hiding the visable tunnels could be done by keeping them off board.
Though your way looks prettier. :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 28, 2009, 09:42:26 AM: Have you considered selling molds? I'd certainly like some, but shipping plaster casts in a sufficient amount to make a sewer would be damned expensive.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: artshiraz on July 28, 2009, 10:14:11 AM: Greetings
Quote from: Dewbakuk on July 28, 2009, 09:42:26 AM
Have you considered selling molds?
Now THAT I would buy immediately. Straight parts, curved ones, optional ceilings, pipes whole and/or broken ones. Sewers with or without "water" puddles. That kind of thing.

Happy brushlicking
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Wirelizard on July 28, 2009, 10:19:53 AM: Those are great, and I'd add them to my wishlist if available, either as parts or as molds!

Especially as molds, though, as others have said.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on July 28, 2009, 10:43:30 AM: Moulds would be a good way of doing it.

I thought they meant selling the moulds to a company, but selling them to us lot would work too. Then we can make as many as we want...
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Modhail on July 28, 2009, 06:59:08 PM: Michi, those are great!
I'd certainly like to have "a few" of them, either as casts or DIY moulds...
For casts I'd prefer resin, for durability issues. Maybe you could find a professional resincaster, to handle the work for you? I'm sure someone here (Ramshackle Curtis maybe? ;) ) or on the Guild knows a reliable caster...
As for pricing, I'd start with working out what it would cost you to produce them (maybe for several types of material), add a margin for unexpected costs/profit/taxes/wishing wells etc. to get a base price. Then ask us if we would be willing to pay that.

Then some questions/suggestions on the sections themselves:
-Have you considered making a centre section, maybe with square brick columns or walls (with or without doorways)? With such a part one could join 2 tunnel sections into a double wide one or a 2 direction foot tunnel.

-Could you give us some measurements? How wide is the "floor" and how high is the ceiling, etc.?

-I know I'd prefer mine with ceilings, but I think it would be better to keep those separate.
Is there any appreciable difference between the curved wall, ceiling and floor? If there isn't, anyone who would want ceilings could just buy extra sections of curved tunnel to use for roofs. That way, you'd only need to sell separate roof sections for t-junctions and crossings. Less items of inventory to keep track of for you...

Good luck on this project!

Bye, Erik
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Bako on July 28, 2009, 11:07:38 PM: I'd buy some for a diorama or something.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 29, 2009, 07:26:59 AM: I have finished the staircase walls and do the floors and steps at the moment. I made it two sections long and two sections high to make it fit into the geometric matrix of the tunnel system:

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale128.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale129.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale130.jpg)

Beside I paint the boots of my zombie platoon...
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale131.jpg)

Quote from: Modhail on July 28, 2009, 06:59:08 PM
Michi, those are great!
I'd certainly like to have "a few" of them, either as casts or DIY moulds...
For casts I'd prefer resin, for durability issues. Maybe you could find a professional resincaster, to handle the work for you? I'm sure someone here (Ramshackle Curtis maybe? ;) ) or on the Guild knows a reliable caster...
As for pricing, I'd start with working out what it would cost you to produce them (maybe for several types of material), add a margin for unexpected costs/profit/taxes/wishing wells etc. to get a base price. Then ask us if we would be willing to pay that.

I´ll consider that. Some folks over here suggested selling of moulds already.

Quote from: Modhail on July 28, 2009, 06:59:08 PM
Then some questions/suggestions on the sections themselves:
-Have you considered making a centre section, maybe with square brick columns or walls (with or without doorways)? With such a part one could join 2 tunnel sections into a double wide one or a 2 direction foot tunnel.

The platform sections will be your solution for that. The larger diameter will result in possible "halls"

Quote from: Modhail on July 28, 2009, 06:59:08 PM
-Could you give us some measurements? How wide is the "floor" and how high is the ceiling, etc.?

The diameter of tubular tunnels (sewers) is 7cm. The floors and straight walls are 5cm high/wide. The rounded ceilings will add another cm. I wanted them to be slightly overdimensioned to allow monster figures in there.

Each section will be 10cm long, 9cm high and 9cm wide. The staircase consists of two sections and is 20cm long. I will try to avoid exceptions. The spiral stair (if ever made) will be one of the unavoidable cases.

Quote from: Modhail on July 28, 2009, 06:59:08 PM
-I know I'd prefer mine with ceilings, but I think it would be better to keep those separate.
Is there any appreciable difference between the curved wall, ceiling and floor? If there isn't, anyone who would want ceilings could just buy extra sections of curved tunnel to use for roofs. That way, you'd only need to sell separate roof sections for t-junctions and crossings. Less items of inventory to keep track of for you...

You are correct with that point, but there is a tiny difference that will be noticed by modelers only: The running of the bricks is kept by the use of the ceiling as it starts with a half brick at both ends while the walls start with a whole brick...
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on July 29, 2009, 08:32:45 AM: Looking good,

I like the horde too. :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Hammers on July 29, 2009, 08:40:11 AM: I am not sure. Testimonies among gamers seem to be against playing multifloor games.They just get to complicated. But without the ceiling part you could make a classic dungeon layout.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Modhail on July 29, 2009, 09:33:01 AM: Quote from: Michi on July 29, 2009, 07:26:59 AM
You are correct with that point, but there is a tiny difference that will be noticed by modelers only: The running of the bricks is kept by the use of the ceiling as it starts with a half brick at both ends while the walls start with a whole brick...

I should have known... Always the eye for detail.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Deathwing on July 30, 2009, 03:51:00 AM: Not sure I would invest in a whole resin system given the size would need, but I would buy some molds to have the option available.

Joey
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: uti long smile on July 30, 2009, 12:00:18 PM: Wonderful! YeaH I'd buy those in a heartbeart!

Tube tracks disappearing into a tunnel would be a nice addition too.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 04, 2009, 11:37:36 AM: First silicon components from the model shop: 500g for 30 € - an expensive fun. One set was enough for one mould.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale480-1.jpg)

I bought two sets and made two moulds:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale481-1.jpg)

The moulding box is made from cedar wood that I got free from a pencil factory:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale482-1.jpg)

The lot of masters that has to be moulded:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale483-1.jpg)

New silicone from the artist´s supply: 5kg for 150 € - still expensive, but 50% cheaper.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale487-1.jpg)

Also two component, but in different mixtures:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale492-1.jpg)

These moulds are going to be white in colour:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale493-1.jpg)

I bought a special ceramic casting compound that will be much harder than plaster:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale486-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale488-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale489-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale494-1.jpg)

These are the masters that I have made so far (there are still a few to make to complete the tube station):
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale490-1.jpg)

Station section with floor extension as platform. The lower wall will form a ceiling as well and an extension curve will stretch it down to track level:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale491-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 04, 2009, 01:34:39 PM: First two castings:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale495-1.jpg)

It turns out to be actually as hard as stone (though as heavy as well...)!
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale496-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale497-1.jpg)

There are a few air bubbles, but I think I can avoid this by mixing more water in:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale498-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Calimero on August 04, 2009, 02:18:26 PM: Nice. For the "air bubble problem" you might want to take a look at this page…
http://www.hirstarts.com/casting/advanced.html#vibrate
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Modhail on August 04, 2009, 06:07:50 PM: Michi, that's looking good!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: BigMecha on August 04, 2009, 10:36:08 PM: WOW!!! looking really goooood!!!!!

can't wait to see a section of the tunnel
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 05, 2009, 01:39:17 PM: First casting session is finished. I was still making moulds beside. I have to resupply that ceramic powder now.
One bucket of five kilos ceramic powder results in 26 cast pieces:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale500-1.jpg)

Curved wall tunnel to straight wall tunnel connection:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale501-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Modhail on August 05, 2009, 02:58:10 PM: That's looking very impressive!

And now for the important question: 26 cast pieces translates into how long a tunnel? ;)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 06, 2009, 08:53:43 AM: Quote from: Modhail on August 05, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
That's looking very impressive!

And now for the important question: 26 cast pieces translates into how long a tunnel? ;)

24 will give you 80cm of length when you leave away the ceiling.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: carlos marighela on August 06, 2009, 09:06:15 AM: Mind the gap.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Hammers on August 06, 2009, 09:50:10 AM: Thanks for sharing the process. Very interesting.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 07, 2009, 12:38:42 PM: I made my first castings with pigments mixed into the ceramic powder. That may save time when it comes to paint sewers.

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale502-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale504-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Calimero on August 07, 2009, 12:58:59 PM: Clever ;)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: uti long smile on August 07, 2009, 03:29:54 PM: Looking good - and the pigment is a real time saver.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 08, 2009, 01:40:07 PM: First section is painted as a prototype now:

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale530-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale532-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale533-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale535-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale536-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale537-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale539-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale540-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale541-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale542-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale543-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale545-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Hauptgefreiter on August 08, 2009, 01:58:53 PM: Very impressive! :-*
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Calimero on August 08, 2009, 02:10:02 PM: :-* indeed
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Post by: Modhail on August 08, 2009, 02:20:57 PM: I'm just dumbstruck....
Beautiful!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Cheeky Monkey on August 08, 2009, 03:36:12 PM: I personally don't think that I would ever have a use for this stuff but I must agree - Absolutely great looking tunnel. You are to be commended.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: artshiraz on August 08, 2009, 03:47:19 PM: Greetings

Okay, nothing new for you but now I'm officially sold ;D My, that's a real beauty you've got there.
Please do continue

Jo
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: uti long smile on August 08, 2009, 05:59:58 PM: Wowza!! They're looking great. What colours did you use? The floor in particular looks cracking. I'm still signed up if you ever plan to sell.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: AKULA on August 08, 2009, 06:18:05 PM: Yummy!

Nice work again Michi.

:)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Mr. Peabody on August 08, 2009, 06:26:27 PM: I thought these would be a hit here at the LAF!
Good luck with this inspired project Michi!

Thomas
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 08, 2009, 07:40:43 PM: Quote from: uti long smile on August 08, 2009, 05:59:58 PM
What colours did you use? The floor in particular looks cracking. I'm still signed up if you ever plan to sell.

No big deal, I only washed the floor black, wiped the surface clean and did a bit of an ochre drybrush on the tiles.

The walls are done similar. I painted brown bands on and washed the tiles with a warm grey. Where the tiles got too dark, I simply removed the wash with sandpaper. None of the pieces were primered, I simply painted and washed the ceramic surfaces.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 08, 2009, 08:08:48 PM: The painting really brings them together *thumbs up smiley* :-* :-*

Great liitle project and I hope it's very successful for you :D :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 09, 2009, 02:49:52 PM: A bit of a tunnel:

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale548-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale551-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale553-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale556-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale559.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale563-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale564-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale566-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale567-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale568-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Hauptgefreiter on August 09, 2009, 03:48:32 PM: those pics look very realistic to me. Not easy to believe that they're models...
I was expecting subway rails around the corner :D
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: uti long smile on August 09, 2009, 05:45:58 PM: It keeps getting better - any more shots of the stairs? My small brain can't compute these...
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 09, 2009, 08:03:28 PM: Now all you need are some zombie buskers lol lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Trysop on August 10, 2009, 02:47:34 PM: Those tunnel sections look fantastic!

For what it is worth I would also be interested in moulds if they were produced to cast your own sections up.

Lovely work :D
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: BigMecha on August 10, 2009, 07:28:41 PM: WOW Michi!!!!!!!

VERY GOOD!! perfect it looks!
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Post by: Pil on August 17, 2009, 03:37:09 PM: Very lovely!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Col.Stone on August 17, 2009, 03:43:16 PM: :-* :-* :-* :-*

I'd be interested in moulds aswell, or castings, depending on price =)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on August 17, 2009, 04:20:51 PM: Fantastic. :-*
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Zafarelli on August 17, 2009, 09:58:17 PM: Incredible! No. 6 is definitely my favorite - with a few more posters, graffiti tags or signs to platforms, it pretty much looks like the real thing. My respect, sir!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Commander Vyper on August 21, 2009, 11:54:23 AM: Absolutely spot on Michi, very nice indeed, definately interested in these and your paint schemes totally capture the 'feel' of the underground.

Any idea on cost yet?

Also if they aren't they already will happily pimp over on the Secrets of the Third Riech Forum, they'll be bucketloads of interest in bombed out London tubes, nazi bunkers and incursion inspired chaos!

Cheers

The Commander
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Hammers on August 22, 2009, 10:01:17 AM: Very good looking, Michi.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on October 04, 2009, 03:51:11 PM: A most inspiring video I found today. Perfect use for tabletop tunnels, I´d say:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhq9n8gq4-0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Hauptgefreiter on October 04, 2009, 04:10:24 PM: :o friggin awesome! :-*
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 04, 2009, 04:10:41 PM: Ooo, I like that :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: manic _miner on October 09, 2009, 12:37:33 PM: Great little video.Some very cool beasties in it too.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: white knight on October 10, 2009, 10:47:29 AM: Lol. BEST David Bowie "we could be heroes" cover ever! lol
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Post by: BigMecha on October 11, 2009, 07:04:44 AM: very awesome video!!!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Trysop on October 24, 2009, 09:34:14 PM: just wondering if there was any more news.....

I really fancy a tunnel system!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on October 25, 2009, 10:52:40 AM: Quote from: Trysop on October 24, 2009, 09:34:14 PM
just wondering if there was any more news.....

I really fancy a tunnel system!

Thanks for your interest. I made two new moulds yesterday: One for the left staircase wall and one for T-junction floor. I will be doing one more today (then I´ll be run out of silicone) and finish some junction walls masters. There is still something missing. Mainly on the to-do-list are:

Station platform entrance/exit wall section
Platform end walls with and without entrance/exit (one left and one right each)
Track level train entrance/exit for the stations (one left and one right each)
Walkway tunnel dead ends (for straight walls and for curved walls each)

The above will finish the basic tunnel system for both sewers and tube train station. I will possibly add some detailed sections for upgrades later (for those who prefer to buy finished parts rather than scratch building). These may be angle junctions, waste water tube ends, walkways/bridges and stairs for sewers, guard/technical rooms, doors/grids (to separate corridor sections) and possibly some details as add ons for the stations.

You can already get the pieces available yet. These are:
Staircase
Straight corridor (curved walls)
Straight corridor (straight walls)
Straight corridor intersection (sraight to curved walls)
...and the same as sewers (curved floor instead of level tiled)
I ask 2,50 € per piece - plus packing and postage (depending on weight and where to ship). One piece weighs approximately 200g. A 4in/10cm long section consists of 3 pieces (or 4 if you want a ceiling as well). Note that the staircase consists of 4 wall pieces, one floor piece plus the steps. I count that as six pieces and offer a complete staircase for 15 € (without ceiling). There is no ceiling for the staircase available, but you can cut the normal ceilings ends at an angle to make them fit. If there is enough interest, I may make special staircase ceilings too.
I will add red pigment on request to make the tiles look like bricks and thus save you painting. I will charge additional 0,50 € per piece for doing so.

So anybody who wants to start glueing and painting now, may order and make me cast.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Commander Vyper on November 02, 2009, 02:55:20 PM: Quote from: Michi on October 25, 2009, 10:52:40 AM
Thanks for your interest. I made two new moulds yesterday: One for the left staircase wall and one for T-junction floor. I will be doing one more today (then I´ll be run out of silicone) and finish some junction walls masters. There is still something missing. Mainly on the to-do-list are:

Station platform entrance/exit wall section
Platform end walls with and without entrance/exit (one left and one right each)
Track level train entrance/exit for the stations (one left and one right each)
Walkway tunnel dead ends (for straight walls and for curved walls each)

The above will finish the basic tunnel system for both sewers and tube train station. I will possibly add some detailed sections for upgrades later (for those who prefer to buy finished parts rather than scratch building). These may be angle junctions, waste water tube ends, walkways/bridges and stairs for sewers, guard/technical rooms, doors/grids (to separate corridor sections) and possibly some details as add ons for the stations.

You can already get the pieces available yet. These are:
Staircase
Straight corridor (curved walls)
Straight corridor (straight walls)
Straight corridor intersection (sraight to curved walls)
...and the same as sewers (curved floor instead of level tiled)
I ask 2,50 € per piece - plus packing and postage (depending on weight and where to ship). One piece weighs approximately 200g. A 4in/10cm long section consists of 3 pieces (or 4 if you want a ceiling as well). Note that the staircase consists of 4 wall pieces, one floor piece plus the steps. I count that as six pieces and offer a complete staircase for 15 € (without ceiling). There is no ceiling for the staircase available, but you can cut the normal ceilings ends at an angle to make them fit. If there is enough interest, I may make special staircase ceilings too.
I will add red pigment on request to make the tiles look like bricks and thus save you painting. I will charge additional 0,50 € per piece for doing so.

So anybody who wants to start glueing and painting now, may order and make me cast.

Sounds like a plan, may have to make a little underground station I think... ;)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: former user on November 02, 2009, 04:40:08 PM: certainly an option to be considered for next year ;)

I think You could add others colors as well for variety, since You do not cast for stock?
Yellow like the original, or green, blue - whatever tere might be all over the world or in our fantasy...

I guess there won't be train tunnels, just the station?
will the floor panels be the same as the train platform panels to add for width in the station?
Will the station be accessible from the sides or from the center?
how about walkway tunnel curves?

just asking...
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on December 30, 2009, 04:40:40 PM: (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale410-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale411-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale412-1.jpg)

The station pieces are finished and ready for making moulds. I have a left and right side end wall with both a passenger and train tunnel. The passenger tunnel may be blocked by a dead end wall insert (or one with a smaller opening for a guard room or something).
I also have platform pieces (Mind the gap!) and tunnel wall and ceiling pieces for 360° coverage.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: AKULA on December 30, 2009, 04:49:54 PM: Looking great Michi

:)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Mr. Peabody on December 30, 2009, 05:12:18 PM: Great to see this project get another instalment!
I'm glad you cross-posted here Michi! The Guild is experiencing technical difficulties. :'(
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: former user on December 30, 2009, 05:41:47 PM: fornicating awesome I say!!!

how about the option for other colours?
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Modhail on December 30, 2009, 09:49:40 PM: Wow! You never cease to amaze, Michi! :o
(Though I'm somewhat terrified of the amount of plaster that's going to eat...)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on December 30, 2009, 10:49:02 PM: Quote from: former user on December 30, 2009, 05:41:47 PM

how about the option for other colours?

Still possible on request. I can add any pigment to the ceramic powder.

@Modhail: Don´t mind about the amount used for these. The result will be worth the invest...
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: former user on December 30, 2009, 10:59:14 PM: thx - definitely on the list these
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Commander Vyper on January 01, 2010, 11:37:20 AM: Quote from: Michi on December 30, 2009, 04:40:40 PM
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale410-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale411-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale412-1.jpg)

The station pieces are finished and ready for making moulds. I have a left and right side end wall with both a passenger and train tunnel. The passenger tunnel may be blocked by a dead end wall insert (or one with a smaller opening for a guard room or something).
I also have platform pieces (Mind the gap!) and tunnel wall and ceiling pieces for 360° coverage.

Yummy!

Must resist....must resist!

(again great for loads of uses, but really feeling this for either zeds, post apoc or more interesting, wierd world war/secrets of the third reich/incursion).

The Commander
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Johnno on April 19, 2010, 09:53:05 PM: AHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
And I just convinced myself to stop buying and start painting the models I have....
Well, a little set back never hurt anyone.

Michi, you have a website up or is a PM fine?
Ever consider putting pieces on Ebay?
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Johnno on April 19, 2010, 11:46:30 PM: Does anyone know of TMNT in 28mm? ;)

Just thinking aloud...hmmm
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Mr. Peabody on April 20, 2010, 12:14:03 AM: Ahhh, the Eastman and Laird versions I imagine, not the cutesy pie goons.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on April 20, 2010, 06:28:01 AM: Quote from: Johnno on April 19, 2010, 09:53:05 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
And I just convinced myself to stop buying and start painting the models I have....
Well, a little set back never hurt anyone.

Michi, you have a website up or is a PM fine?
Ever consider putting pieces on Ebay?

PMs will do at the moment. Though I plan to put up a site possibly.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Johnno on April 22, 2010, 05:50:28 PM: PM sent
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on June 21, 2010, 06:20:24 AM: The masters have all been moulded now, the casting can start. As soon as I have done a painted sample of each section I will update this thread with some pictures or start a new one. Station tunnels (larger diameter - hold track and platform), entries/exits for both side and end walls and platforms are available now.
Mind the gap!

Michi
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 21, 2010, 06:28:53 AM: Quote from: Michi on June 21, 2010, 06:20:24 AM
The masters have all been moulded now, the casting can start. As soon as I have done a painted sample of each section I will update this thread with some pictures or start a new one. Station tunnels (larger diameter - hold track and platform), entries/exits for both side and end walls and platforms are available now.
Mind the gap!

Michi

Casting of the station pieces in progress...

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale162-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale163.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Rabbitz on July 21, 2010, 08:00:43 AM: You either have a very understanding Wife/Partner or she was out at the time and there is little to no chance of her visiting this forum.
lol

They look awesome
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Argonor on July 21, 2010, 08:33:39 AM: Very interesting. Can't see myself affording a tunnel system anytime soon, with house purchase, and all, but very interesting, anyway. :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: uti long smile on July 21, 2010, 12:45:40 PM: Excellent news! Can't wait for some new pics :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 21, 2010, 02:38:12 PM: Quote from: Rabbitz on July 21, 2010, 08:00:43 AM
she was out at the time and there is little to no chance of her visiting this forum.

Exactly...
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on July 21, 2010, 04:25:48 PM: This is a horribly tempting purchase in the future. But the shipping will be a backhand in the face. Will you bring it to any show? :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Modhail on July 21, 2010, 06:49:36 PM: Hmmmm, freshly baked subway.... Delicious. ;)

Brilliant stuff Michi! At what temperature did you set the oven?
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Johnno on July 22, 2010, 04:54:43 AM: Can't wait to see finished product
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 22, 2010, 05:47:59 AM: Quote from: Modhail on July 21, 2010, 06:49:36 PM
At what temperature did you set the oven?

Slightly below 100°C. I didn´t want to vaporize moisture to avoid breaking of casts...

Quote from: Silversixx on July 21, 2010, 04:25:48 PM
This is a horribly tempting purchase in the future. But the shipping will be a backhand in the face. Will you bring it to any show? :)

I just sent a rather heavy parcel to Denmark, which was 22 € shipping. I guess you are right about that. I will try to bring it to conventions, but this is not yet scheduled.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 22, 2010, 06:51:28 AM: The project:

Baker Street & Waterloo Railway, better known as Bakerloo line of today´s London tube.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Bakerloo_Line.png/800px-Bakerloo_Line.png)

Fictious location between Oxford Circus and Regent´s Park for wargaming reasons...

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale366-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale369-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale368-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale367-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Modhail on July 22, 2010, 07:42:40 AM: That is just drop-dead gorgeous!
Very atmospheric pics.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: cianty on July 22, 2010, 08:43:54 AM: Awesome!
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Post by: dijit on July 22, 2010, 10:52:04 AM: That looks really fantastic, but I guess you knew that! I love the glazed effect on the tiles.
Duncan
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: former user on July 22, 2010, 03:56:19 PM: give me a break! :-*

knowing You I expect the train to enter any minute ....
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Mr. Peabody on July 22, 2010, 04:10:43 PM: Michi! Your enthusiasm and brilliance will always be a inspiration!

These tube-ways are really a tour-de-force!

Thomas
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Johnno on July 22, 2010, 06:10:41 PM: Wowwwwwww!!!
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 22, 2010, 07:43:53 PM: The painting on those tiles is amazing :-*

cheers

James
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: uti long smile on July 22, 2010, 09:27:24 PM: Hubba Hubba :o

Could I suggest Mornington Crescent and Hobbs End as extra stations on the line too :)

Can I lure you over to the Doctor Who Miniatures Game and we put on a Web of Fear\Yeti vs UNIT game at Salute next year :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: myincubliss on July 22, 2010, 09:29:49 PM: Was at Piccadilly at half 8 yesterday morning thinking 'I wonder if Michi's doing escalators...?'
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Brandlin on July 22, 2010, 09:33:59 PM: Quote from: uti long smile on July 22, 2010, 09:27:24 PM
Could I suggest Mornington Crescent

HAS TO BE!!!

I really want to know how you got both the mottled effect of very similar but differing tons on each tile and the glased look... the colours are spot on for that bit of line!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Commander Vyper on July 22, 2010, 10:40:45 PM: Said it when you first posted up, have to say it again.

Fecking lovely!!!!

:o :o
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 23, 2010, 06:20:51 AM: Quote from: Brandlin on July 22, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
HAS TO BE!!!

I really want to know how you got both the mottled effect of very similar but differing tons on each tile and the glased look... the colours are spot on for that bit of line!

The tiles were pre-painted white and brown and then washed with a warm grey and rubbed clean several times. Now they gloss a bit due to the rubbing/polishing effect and look dirty by the wash at the same time...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Mornington_Crescent_stn_building.JPG/800px-Mornington_Crescent_stn_building.JPG)

Sorry, no Mornington Crescent for me, as it is located along the Northern Line and no Hobbs End, because that would be on the Central Line:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/Hobbsendtube.jpg)

Quote from: myincubliss on July 22, 2010, 09:29:49 PM
'I wonder if Michi's doing escalators...?'

Michi is not going to make escalators. There will only be stairs, but these will be nice as well!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Tsune on July 23, 2010, 07:36:58 AM: Amazing stuff!!! :o :-* :o
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 25, 2010, 09:08:17 AM: Platform access through L-shaped passageway:

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale377-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale376-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale371-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale370-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale380.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on July 25, 2010, 11:02:21 AM: Looks too clean!!! Not enough piss stains... ;D

Looks bloomin' excellent.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Blackwolf on July 25, 2010, 11:41:49 AM: Michi this is extraordinary,you have technical skill,more importantly you have artistic skill,few have this combination. Just brilliant :).
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on July 27, 2010, 06:19:17 AM: I bought some old TRIX H0 three-rail tracks to mimick the London system (that´s actually four rails, but it´s hard to get non-catenary electrification model tracks of any kind here) and ballasted it with sand grains (which are yet to paint and weather properly)...

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale383.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale397.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale396.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale395.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale391.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale389.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Col.Stone on July 27, 2010, 07:18:35 AM: this is one of the most (http://frothersunite.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_frothing.gif)-worthy projects i've ever seen :D

Excellent work from start to,, here ;)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: cianty on July 27, 2010, 09:32:33 AM: That is soo awesome!
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Post by: fairoaks024 on July 27, 2010, 02:06:13 PM: WOW!

i have nothing else to say......

regards

jim
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Post by: AKULA on July 27, 2010, 02:34:44 PM: Stunningly good as always Michi

8)
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Post by: Centaur_Seducer on July 27, 2010, 10:31:01 PM: I look forward to when you make the stairs for Elephants and castle ;)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: anevilgiraffe on July 27, 2010, 11:21:57 PM: Quote from: Col.Stone on July 27, 2010, 07:18:35 AM
this is one of the most (http://frothersunite.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_frothing.gif)-worthy projects i've ever seen :D

Excellent work from start to,, here ;)

yarp
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: uti long smile on July 28, 2010, 01:54:13 PM: Wonderful stuff!

Sooo tempted by these, but must resist at the mo :(
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Traveler Man on July 28, 2010, 03:21:56 PM: Oh, excellent work! From the detailing to the painting that is one lovely piece of kit! :-*
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: carlos marighela on July 30, 2010, 11:20:04 AM: What is the German for 'mind the gap' ? :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 05, 2010, 10:06:37 PM: Quote from: carlos marighela on July 30, 2010, 11:20:04 AM
What is the German for 'mind the gap' ? :)

Literally: "Denke an den Spalt"
Common German speaker call for oncoming trains: "Vorsicht an der Bahnsteigkante!" (Pay attention at platform edge)

I made another platform, both are still in progress...

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale433.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale432.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale430.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale429.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale428.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale427.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale426.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale424.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale422.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale419.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale417.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale413.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale412.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale410.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: ballistic_bro on August 06, 2010, 02:24:18 PM: :o :o Wow, that is some amazing work. :)

Would love a set of these, but need a bigger house first!?! :)

Amazing. :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: uti long smile on August 06, 2010, 02:47:18 PM: Beautiful work.

Remind me of the pricing again? Did you ever get the website up?
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 06, 2010, 03:58:30 PM: Quote from: uti long smile on August 06, 2010, 02:47:18 PM

Remind me of the pricing again? Did you ever get the website up?

Not yet, because we are in progress of writing an own ruleset which will revolve the tabletop gaming market...this takes a little time too.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Rabbitz on August 06, 2010, 05:49:28 PM: be sure to let us know when we can buy these
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Argonor on August 27, 2010, 05:15:39 PM: I think I may have found something useful!

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/38_27_08_10_6_11_18.jpg)

These are very thin (1/3 mm or so) magnets, and the red circle is 25 mm (a 25mm slotta exactly covers it).

Available for a little more than € 1, a little less than £ 1, and a little less than $ 1.5 .

With a small piece og sheet metal, you have instant interchangeable signs for moving the action from station to station.....?
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Skrapwelder on August 27, 2010, 05:26:26 PM: No Mornington Crescent? :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Argonor on August 27, 2010, 05:39:12 PM: I don't think there were any other variants than these.... I was in a bit of a hurry, as the store is in the railroad/bus station centre in Odense where I work, and I just had a few extra moments to look through it before catching my commuter train home.

I also bought my wife a dusty-blue mug (she loves dusty blues and greens) - and some 'baileys tea' (I'm collecting points for Horisont in Esbjerg end of November ;) ) - and she promptly asked if we could get some more, so I might have a chance for another peek, soonish...

I thought them a nice prop, and bought them mostly for showing here, as I have currently no exact plans for any underground adventures..... :)

Hmmmm... there IS a subway entrance in one of my Worldworks sets btw....
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Post by: Christian on August 28, 2010, 12:47:11 AM: Amazing!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 28, 2010, 01:32:55 AM: Quote from: Skrapwelder on August 27, 2010, 05:26:26 PM
No Mornington Crescent? :)

Nice :)

Very good work on show here. I would say museum quality at least. The colours and 'scale' of the painting is top notch :-* :-*

cheers

James
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: former user on August 28, 2010, 05:11:49 PM: seriously, if it were not for the joints of the pieces and the sometimes obvious scale it could easily be a movie set

Hut ab Michi!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Commander Vyper on August 28, 2010, 08:01:20 PM: They are truly amazing. Just one tiny teeny niggle re: track.

In the London underground theres a 'jumper's trap, ie the rails are raised so there's a gutter under them, so if someone 'falls' they have a chance of rolling under the track rather than being sliced up on the track or fried, (usually only at the underground platforms and not where the tube moves overground or where stations are just on the edge of overground track):

(http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Suicide%20Pit%20with%20FB%20Rail.JPG)

If you made some of that as well that would be simply amazing, Oh and I haven't forgotten about the pirates, as soon as they surface I'll send em over.
The Commander
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: former user on August 29, 2010, 01:53:44 PM: interesting

here in Cologne we do not have such a thing
it looks more like Michi's track
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on August 29, 2010, 10:20:32 PM: Quote from: Commander Vyper on August 28, 2010, 08:01:20 PM
They are truly amazing. Just one tiny teeny niggle re: track.

In the London underground theres a 'jumper's trap, ie the rails are raised so there's a gutter under them, so if someone 'falls' they have a chance of rolling under the track rather than being sliced up on the track or fried, (usually only at the underground platforms and not where the tube moves overground or where stations are just on the edge of overground track):

(http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Suicide%20Pit%20with%20FB%20Rail.JPG)

If you made some of that as well that would be simply amazing, Oh and I haven't forgotten about the pirates, as soon as they surface I'll send em over.
The Commander

Thanks, I knew that and was thinking a lot of how to make such, but finally decided not to do it. I made mine the way I did, because I want them to be pre-war (1930s) and do believe that those raised rails are a more modern invention - also the ballasted tracks will make it easier to place figures on, I guess.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on September 17, 2010, 09:35:36 PM: Another little progress: One platform section is completed now, there is lighting installed and a box build around. I look forward to finish in until end of this month...

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale559.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale558.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale557.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale556.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale555.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale554.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale553.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale552.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Rabbitz on September 18, 2010, 05:17:51 AM: :o
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Wirelizard on September 18, 2010, 05:39:14 AM: Quote from: Rabbitz on September 18, 2010, 05:17:51 AM
:o

Yeah, that.

Very cool, the lighting and diorama presentation move this up a level. (or possibly down a level, given we're talking subways?)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Sheerluck Holmes on September 18, 2010, 06:51:01 AM: :o

And there I was happy with the wild west building I was tinkering with today thinking it was a good job... only to see this.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Bako on September 18, 2010, 07:27:28 AM: What a beaut. It looks so terribly realistic. Good on you! :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Big Sexy on September 18, 2010, 08:42:57 AM: Please stop. The line between reality and miniature is starting to blur. I don't know if I can handle it. ;D
Truly inspiring.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Modhail on September 19, 2010, 07:47:50 PM: Jeez, Michi... That's just brain-breakingly awesome! o_o
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: former user on September 22, 2010, 01:37:35 PM: unbelievable! :o :o
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: gamer Mac on September 22, 2010, 07:09:40 PM: Your are the kidding.
You have just went done to the subway and taken a picture. Then try to pass it off to us as a model. lol
:-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Silent Invader on September 22, 2010, 07:42:51 PM: I thought it was stunning and then you added the lighting. :o
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: former user on September 22, 2010, 10:54:35 PM: Quote from: gamer Mac link=topic=
You have just went done to the subway and taken a picture. Then try to pass it off to us as a model. lol
:-* :-* :-*
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like @Thunderchicken with his victorian street!

but we are not Stupid! lol lol
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on October 10, 2010, 09:15:46 AM: Very close to completion now...

I said that I wanted the station to be rather multiperiod, hence I went for the 1935 roundel:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/ruondel.jpg)

And this is my interpretation - three of them done and ready to be insatlled...
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Blackwolf on October 10, 2010, 10:13:58 AM: I am without words........Oh alright,BRILLIANT. The roundel is perfect :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Remington on October 10, 2010, 11:09:20 AM: You are joking! My brain feels numb now...
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Michi on October 10, 2010, 12:11:14 PM: The three of them in place and weathered...

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale584-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale583.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini%202010/MiniaturenfotosOriginale582-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Thunderchicken on October 10, 2010, 03:33:41 PM: The Undergound used to suffer from a serious lack of investment and in the 80's wasn't much fun using. Some stations hadn't been updated since the 30's and I remember seeing these roundels on the Northern Line which was an outdated s**thole of a line.

Stunning work! :-*
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Steve F on October 10, 2010, 04:36:01 PM: Quote from: Thunderchicken on October 10, 2010, 03:33:41 PM
The Undergound used to suffer from a serious lack of investment and in the 80's wasn't much fun using. Some stations hadn't been updated since the 30's and I remember seeing these roundels on the Northern Line which was an outdated s**thole of a line.

Oh, yeah. Get on at Chalk Farm with a white shirt; get off at Charing Cross with a grey one! All that Victorian soot ...
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Plynkes on October 10, 2010, 04:42:56 PM: As a country bumpkin I've always liked going the Underground, as it so different to life here in the Shire, and quite the novelty. But not when it is busy. I had the unhappy experience of travelling on it at peak time on my way to GLAM this year.

It made me want to go on a machine gun and machete rampage. I had to drink a whole bottle of quite expensive Chardonnay to restore my equilibrium.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Photographer on October 11, 2010, 12:12:47 AM: I thought of getting a tunnel. I'd buy that. The werewolf scene made me laugh hard.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: cianty on October 11, 2010, 02:35:13 PM: With the lightnings it looks like a film set or something. Absolutely stunning.. o_o
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Hammers on October 11, 2010, 07:50:20 PM: Fantastic! That's good enough for film making.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 13, 2010, 02:25:38 PM: The whole Tube network is outdated ::) And that goes for the attitude of rather a large amount of the staff who work there.

cheers

James
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Hammers on October 13, 2010, 02:43:32 PM: Quote from: jimbibbly on October 13, 2010, 02:25:38 PM
The whole Tube network is outdated ::) And that goes for the attitude of rather a large amount of the staff who work there.

cheers

James

I like the London tube but I've never had to use it during busy hours. While longer the tunnels are wee like badger holes in comparison with the echoing mamuth caves-cum-art museums which were bored through the granite when the Stockholm Tunnelbana was constructed so I am not surprised there's a constant congestion. Stockholm doesn't suffer from that but from the Laurel and Hardy Electrical Company being in charge of the wiring.
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 13, 2010, 02:46:45 PM: It's not fun when the species known as 'The Suit' use it and HAVE to be first on or off, or fist though the ticket gate etc etc, even though the f**kers are way at the back ::)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Ainsty Castings on December 06, 2011, 01:51:05 PM: All of these Tunnels and platforms are now available and in production on the Ainsty website www.ainsty-castings.co.uk
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Galland on December 06, 2011, 08:14:29 PM: Good news indeed, however... Michi, now get on it and make us a Berlin U-bahn piece, so we can do some good WWII wargaming! :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Andym on December 07, 2011, 07:54:26 AM: Wow!!!! :o :o :o I'm just new to this thread, but feck sake are they brilliant!! Those shots with the lights make it look über realistic!! Your painting style really compliments the pieces too Michi!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Ainsty Castings on December 08, 2011, 05:50:43 PM: Quote from: Andym on December 07, 2011, 07:54:26 AM
Wow!!!! :o :o :o I'm just new to this thread, but feck sake are they brilliant!! Those shots with the lights make it look über realistic!! Your painting style really compliments the pieces too Michi!

Just needs a Big Ben type model to go with them now :)
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Ninja on December 09, 2011, 04:41:57 PM: The photography is well done, this is a great piece!
Title: Re: Is there any use for tunnels?
Post by: Ainsty Castings on December 09, 2011, 10:20:32 PM: Quote from: Ninja on December 09, 2011, 04:41:57 PM
The photography is well done, this is a great piece!

Thats what drew me to it in the first place, looks real and I have caught a few people out on that front already