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Title: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: Tim Haslam on May 30, 2021, 05:21:52 PM
Rather than steel the other thread I’ve started my own.

Project,
Finish a complete plastic army, I’ve used plastic in the past but never a full ancient army.

Figures, Victrix, absolutely superb.
Spent two weeks assembling them and basing up plus under coat.
(Laborious but actually I’m in no hurry so I enjoyed that part)

Approximately 160 figures, horses etc.

Started painting today, thought I’d start on the less complex skirmish dudes.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: swordman on May 30, 2021, 06:04:15 PM
great job :-*
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on May 30, 2021, 06:06:20 PM
I’m going to start on a big unit of poor quality warriors next, so these get helmets and bigger shields with perhaps a dash more colour?
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 30, 2021, 10:14:50 PM
Very good start.  :-* :-*    I agree the Victrix Numidians are probably their best figures
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Post by: Cyrus1 on May 31, 2021, 12:31:16 AM
Great start, looking forward to your posts! I’ll update the thread I started with some infantry.
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Post by: Emporium on May 31, 2021, 03:10:02 PM
Nice start! Seems that Numidians are a hot topic in ancient wargaming nowadays!
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on May 31, 2021, 05:52:05 PM
Bit hot today, so paint was drying too quickly.
Never mind, these are some close order infantry.
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Post by: sgzleada71 on June 07, 2021, 12:42:17 AM
ooooh      very nice.    Simple but effective colour scheme.   I might need to make some similar  :) 
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 07, 2021, 12:43:00 PM
Pushing on...
15 hours into a projected 80!
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 07, 2021, 12:46:46 PM
I’ll do better pictures when the unit is finished.
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Post by: Dave Bednarek on June 07, 2021, 02:28:03 PM
  Well done!! Might I ask where did you get those movement trays from?
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Post by: Jjonas on June 07, 2021, 05:51:57 PM
Nice idea. You have more patience than me. I have a whole phalanx of Victrix Thebans. Nicely separated into six or seven bins of heads, arms, shields, etc. Sitting there for  a year. Attempted Covid-19 stir crazy therapy, don't cut, just assemble 64 Thebans.

They are still there in case.... I do hate assembling plastics. Good job on yours and plastics give you lots of choices with Numidians.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 07, 2021, 07:21:14 PM
Cheers guys.
Big green movement tray is hand made from ABS.
It’s just holding the figures whilst I paint them.
I will be using MDF from Warbases when finished.

I actually enjoyed putting these figures together, but agreed it is time consuming, just glad I wasn’t in a rush.
I’m really impressed with the basic Numidian infantry set.
The difference between my skirmish units and the formed unit is quite amazing considering it’s all from one box!

I’m going to multi base these close formation figures, into a unit of 40, but I’ll cheat a little and only paint 36 actual figures!

I need to get started on a unit of cavalry next, as I’ve got three units in all, maybe 4 if I look at a Spanish bodyguard?
Jeff, maybe you could help with that?
Was Jubas bodyguard Spanish and Gallic mercenary types? Or just Spanish?
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: bigredbat on June 07, 2021, 08:07:08 PM
Looking great, Tim. Are the elephants transfers?
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 07, 2021, 08:19:25 PM
Hi Simon,
Yeah good old Veni Vidi Vici?
I like the way I can paint over them to achieve a hand painted look.

Don’t get me wrong the LBM transfers are awesome, but looking at my army, it was going to cost £36+ Not a massive problem, but I wanted a more unique looking force.
This is my second Numidian army I’ve painted, the first being mostly Crusader models.

I’m after a muted look, nothing too bright. Maybe even poor looking?
I may introduce a dull madder red into the imitation legionaries?

I’m kind of making it up as I go along!

Opinions on the skirmish cavalry please,
Should I do them just leather or wood effect as the skirmish infantry.
OR
Should I do them the same as the formed infantry above, white with black elephant.
OR
Should I attempt some primitive animal skin type effect, hand painted of course!

Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Zingara on June 07, 2021, 09:50:33 PM


Opinions on the skirmish cavalry please,
Should I do them just leather or wood effect as the skirmish infantry.
OR
Should I do them the same as the formed infantry above, white with black elephant.
OR
Should I attempt some primitive animal skin type effect, hand painted of course!
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If you are doing 3 units then one of each is feasible!! I like the muted effect you achieved with the skirmishers.
Very nice project by the way. Do you have a set of rules in mind that you are aiming at?
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 07, 2021, 10:22:39 PM

Opinions on the skirmish cavalry please,
Should I do them just leather or wood effect as the skirmish infantry.
OR
Should I do them the same as the formed infantry above, white with black elephant.
OR
Should I attempt some primitive animal skin type effect, hand painted of course!


Those Numidians get better and better.   :-* :-*

As for the cavalry, I'd go with the animal skin  or leather and wood but upgrade the shields if you are adding a Spanish bodyguard unit.

Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 07, 2021, 10:28:16 PM
Would you believe it, I’m playing WAB!

Yeah, muted shields for skirmish cavalry and maybe a bit posh for Spanish bodyguard?
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Jjonas on June 08, 2021, 05:44:20 AM
"Was Jubas bodyguard Spanish and Gallic mercenary types? Or just Spanish?"

That I cannot help you with, not in my wheel house. Sorry.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: bigredbat on June 08, 2021, 12:14:44 PM
From memory, Spanish
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 09, 2021, 10:24:46 PM
Levy, finished!
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 09, 2021, 10:39:17 PM
Very nice.  :-* :-*
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 10, 2021, 05:48:57 PM
1st of 4 elephants finished.
Again keeping the simple muted colours.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 10, 2021, 07:46:15 PM
What a lovely nellie.  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 10, 2021, 08:10:16 PM
Very petite!
Apparently they used a small breed?

Cute though.
Very impressed with the versatility of the kit.
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Post by: Hu Rhu on June 10, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
Very petite!
Apparently they used a small breed?

Cute though.
Very impressed with the versatility of the kit.

Yes they used a breed called the African bush elephant which was much smaller than the African elephant we are familiar with today.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: bigredbat on June 10, 2021, 09:58:16 PM
Ah I think the bush elephants are the big ones. It's a North African forest elephant (extinct subspecies), similar to the African forest elephant (L. cyclotis).
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 10, 2021, 10:10:59 PM
Ah I think the bush elephants are the big ones. It's a North African forest elephant (extinct subspecies), similar to the African forest elephant (L. cyclotis).

You are right.  I mixed up my heffalumps.  :D
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: archiduque on June 14, 2021, 12:13:16 PM
Excellent stuff!! :-*
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 14, 2021, 05:48:36 PM
Started the cavalry, poor picture, I’ll post better when the rest of the unit is done.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 17, 2021, 07:21:17 PM
More stuff!
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 26, 2021, 07:10:57 PM
Added another lump and more cavalry.
Roughly 100 painted out of 160.
So we’ll on the way now.
40 hours work.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: James Morris on June 26, 2021, 08:43:36 PM
Cripes, that’s a lot of Numidians!  Great paint job and those Victrix minis are lovely.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 26, 2021, 09:48:31 PM
Cheers James.
Another elephant, 15 more cavalry, 24 imitation legionaries and some command and I’m all done! Lol.

Oh and some Numidian improvised field fortifications, whatever they look like??
I’m using WAB Hannibal book army lists, and apparently I get these prepared positions for free.
I don’t know if I should use Roman style marching fort or something more improvised similar to African thorn bush barricades??
Apparently Numidian armies liked to pick their battlefield and spring ambushes.

Thoughts…
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: bigredbat on June 27, 2021, 12:09:31 PM
I think I recall reading some reference to thorny barricades- must be in Caesar's Civil War.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on June 27, 2021, 05:00:13 PM
If you could find that reference it would be very interesting.
I’ve chosen to try coconut pan scrubs to make my thorny bush!
I shall post progress.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on July 16, 2021, 08:39:41 PM
It’s been a while.
But I have been busy, in fact only one unit of cavalry left.
I’ve started playing with the army and now got a little worried that I’ve created a monster!
Those 4 elephants are difficult to deal with!
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on July 16, 2021, 08:40:16 PM
Forgot to say, those are my imitation legionaries!
 lol
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: sgzleada71 on July 17, 2021, 11:28:01 AM
They are brilliant.   Love the chain mailed Numidians.   I'm in the process of doing something similar.    Inspiring  work.   Are you going to finish the bases ?  That'll make them look fantastic. 
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on July 17, 2021, 06:46:12 PM
Cheers,
Yes finishing the bases is definitely on the agenda.
I usually wait until I get to end of figure painting before I start basing though.
I’ve just got a few more cavalry to paint and that’s it, on with basing.
The army is 160+ figures so getting all that done first.

Actually not fully decided on what/how to base this army?
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Hu Rhu on July 19, 2021, 05:41:14 PM
Nice take on imitation legionaries.  :-*
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Post by: FierceKitty on July 20, 2021, 04:15:02 AM
"chain" mailed??
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Post by: bigredbat on July 20, 2021, 01:14:26 PM
Very productive, very impressive!
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on July 21, 2021, 11:55:47 AM
Well that’s what COVID enforced semi retirement does to you!

More time to paint, 60 hours into the project.
Between 2-3 figures an hour.

Very nearly done, just 3 more cavalry.
Just starting to experiment with basing, will post pictures up soon..
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: bigredbat on July 21, 2021, 12:14:51 PM
What's the primer you are using, please?
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Post by: Tim Haslam on July 21, 2021, 02:18:43 PM
Army Painter, leather brown.
Gives a nice shade to the skin without being too dark.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: bigredbat on July 21, 2021, 04:35:02 PM
Thanks, I'll try a can.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on July 21, 2021, 04:43:36 PM
Just gave them an ink wash then highlighted with leather brown from the pot this time.

Started the basing..
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on July 21, 2021, 08:09:08 PM
Lots to love in this thread, especially those Numidians in maille.
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: FierceKitty on July 22, 2021, 03:36:17 AM
 lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: More Numidians!!!
Post by: Tim Haslam on July 22, 2021, 04:56:39 PM
Finished basing one unit.
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: Tim Haslam on July 28, 2021, 09:44:58 AM
80 hours over two months start to finish.
Basing took longer than I expected, but worth it.

I fear I’ve created a monster by using 4 elephants, probably would be better if I took 3 elephants and slightly more imitation legionaries.
I’ve got the spare figures, but I’m starting my African Vandal army for now.
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: tomek917 on July 28, 2021, 01:36:42 PM
Very nice force, good work!
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: Tim Haslam on August 08, 2021, 11:13:22 AM
Better pictures
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: Tim Haslam on August 08, 2021, 01:22:56 PM
Close up
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: Tim Haslam on August 08, 2021, 01:23:30 PM
Another
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: Roo on August 08, 2021, 01:25:17 PM
Nice looking force and finished rapidly but to a lovely finish.  Great job.
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on August 08, 2021, 06:39:48 PM
Great work!
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: Tim Haslam on August 08, 2021, 10:04:05 PM
Thanks chaps.
I cannot express enough how much I like these figures from Victrix.

At some point I’ll probably make a Spanish bodyguard and more imitation legionaries.
(I may have already said that?)
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: Tonhel on August 09, 2021, 08:35:32 AM
Great work! It's a beautiful army!
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: folnjir on August 17, 2021, 01:59:25 AM
I'm late coming across this project but fantastic work. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: VonAkers on August 21, 2021, 12:09:33 AM
Tim
Mate they look simply awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o, well done old boy !!!
Cheers
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: Tim Haslam on August 21, 2021, 12:12:05 PM
Thanks.
Doing well on the battlefield too.
Title: Re: More Numidians. FINISHED!
Post by: FierceKitty on August 21, 2021, 01:09:26 PM
More dangerous than they look, aren't they?